im dumbfounded by some of the logic used to support gojet. times are hard? you make 23k a year as a pilot. if times are REALLY that tough, you can probably make more money at Target and not be hated by everyone in your field of work. i mean really, who doesn't love Target?

 

quote-BURflyer-Yea you're right akflyguy


thanks brother, i'm glad you agree with me

 

There are proven ways that don't involve quitting to help out our pilot brethren. But airlines like go-jets, that circumvent these methods make it harder and harder for pilots EVERYWHERE to get a fair shake at things based on precedence alone.

Everyone is to blame for the regionals sucking; The original pilots back in the day that started taking the jobs for 20 an hour (I can't blame pilots now, because now most are at industry standard in terms of salary, there isn't anywhere TO GO to make more money, and regionals are THE stepping stone to the majors), the unions for having zero backbone and their own priorities in-front of the group(s) they "represent", and mainline pilots for getting too FAT, DUMB AND HAPPY in their positions (and thence shunning the RJs).

You can't blame MGMT, they've always been dirty, and always will be. Their priorities are their bottom line, PERIOD.

The success (in terms of still existing) of go-jet sets an example that managements from ALL other airlines can use / mimic to their advantage. Same with the MESAs and Colgans in the world.

There needs to be more POSITIVE things to mimic, it started early this decade (comair contract to start), but this industry is going through things it has NEVER gone through before..it's going to take a long time for any sense of normalcy.

Hang on for the ride, but there is a fiery place in H-E-DOUBLE HOCKEY STICKS for the pilots of go-jet. Who put personal SHORT TERM gain in front of a wise long term decision.

 

sorry, that 1st post of mine was the result of years of surfing the site and not being able to post. a thousand pardons.... i will be civil from now on.
it's my opinion that a lot of guys don't formulate their own opinions. they come in hearing "gojet sucks" over and over.... so they adopt that, not because of any moral grounds but because of fear of retribution and ridicule to the opposite.

 

And as for letting my feet do the talking, do you have a better way of getting Turbine PIC in a 121 environment? Cuz I don't. I can't get to "your" company unless I put up with the BS "you" created at this level.

You haven't followed along in the conversation. You are just flying off the handle with a knee jerk reaction.

I agree that every regional pilot needs to take crappy jobs at crappy wages to get an opportunity to reach their ultimate goals.

What I don't agree with is taking the job that you so desperately need to gain your experience and then wanting to burn the place down because you are not happy with the wages.

As for me, I took the job for crappy pay, never complained and then got my PIC. I could no longer take it anymore so instead of yelling burn the place down, I let my feet do the talking.

 

WALMART.... Don't tell me that you have never gone inside walmart to buy something for less that they sell in target! That's pretty much the samething isnt it?

Overtime is frowned upon where I work, but I still pick up OT any chance I get. Who else will give me FREE money? Am I considered a scab for going against some of the pilots I work with? People don't really care that I eat off the dollar menu almost everynight, these guys are at top of the paylist. Ask yourself this, if you just finished your flight training with a 30k loan and GoJet is the only carrier hiring....will you sit out and work elsewhere because of pride? Is it a smart choice? Im not defending gojets but that's just the reality of business.....(backstabbin' is the norm)

good day

 

plenty have.

But i don't know if i'd necessarily call it pride....more like responsibility.

 

Why would you want to work at the worst airline out there, sit at the bottom of the seniority list, and have no QOL? There are plenty of instructor gigs out there where the pay approaches almost twice first year pay. Paying the bills wouldn't be a problem in your scenario.

 

But not flying that shiny jet would be

 

What you are missing is the reality that their are guys/gals from the list below who dont give a rodents behind about what you think all they want is a JOB not everyone lives at home with mommy and daddy

And as for the Jump seat thing I read earlier. remember in a Jump seat War NO ONE WINS.... Bottom line is Gojet is Here to STAY

1. ATA
2. EOS
3. Maxjet
4. Skybus
5. Champion
6. Aloha
7. Big Sky
8. Skyway

How Much May be out on the Streets from

9. Mesa
10. Express Jet
11. Midwest
12. USA 3000
13. Continental rumour of a a reduction bid