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Old 05-19-2008 | 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by hdale
Appreciate the well wishes. Im sure he see's the difference between MAG and SWA. Im not saying you have personally but when people post that they hope MAG goes away we take that personally. You know this is our livelyhood. A lot of people say well get another flying gig, we all know that is easier said than done. With the way thing are in the industry I dont think it would be a good thing to be airline hopping. If and when MAG goes away I want people to post on this board how much better thier pay, QOL, and schedules have become. We all know someone is waiting in the shadows to underbid contracts so that they can get the flying!
Buddy, I also haven't said that I "hope MAG goes away". If you feel the need to put words in my mouth then this debate will remain pedestrian. Guess what, I was MAG and I got another flying gig....so did 100 pilots a month from MAG. I find that excuse to be weak. Is it easy? No. Is it even harder now? Yes, absolutely. I take issue with the victim mentality that "oh poor is me, I work for MAG and when it is no longer I can't find a flying job". Nobody put a gun to your head and told you you have to work at MAG. Just as nobody put a gun to MY head. I worked there, educated myself on why I shouldn't be there and at the first opportunity I moved on. If you feel picked on, TOUGH. Man up and leave.
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Old 05-19-2008 | 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by WhizWheel
If you cant see that then keep drinkin' the Kool Aid. Make Jim Jones proud.
Slow it down scooter. I don't drink anything besides whiskey.

I clearly see the difference in airlines, but a tiny part of me thinks there wasn't as much foul play in HI as everyone said. I think Aloha was struggling to begin with (before JO even knew where HI was), and its been convenient to place the blame on us since they've gone under. I am by no means saying we didn't have a hand in Aloha's failure, but I find it hard to believe our 5 CRJ's brought down an entire airline.

I was simply making an arguement that this is a tough industry, and the competition (now more than ever as we all struggle to make money) is fierce.

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Old 05-19-2008 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by WhizWheel
Buddy, I also haven't said that I "hope MAG goes away". If you feel the need to put words in my mouth then this debate will remain pedestrian. Guess what, I was MAG and I got another flying gig....so did 100 pilots a month from MAG. I find that excuse to be weak. Is it easy? No. Is it even harder now? Yes, absolutely. I take issue with the victim mentality that "oh poor is me, I work for MAG and when it is no longer I can't find a flying job". Nobody put a gun to your head and told you you have to work at MAG. Just as nobody put a gun to MY head. I worked there, educated myself on why I shouldn't be there and at the first opportunity I moved on. If you feel picked on, TOUGH. Man up and leave.
Hey Skippy, Im not your Buddy. Your either really angry , or really drunk! Reread the third line in the post, oh wait I'll put it here for you in hopes that you wont get to confused, ready here it is, "Im not saying you have personally but when people post that they hope MAG goes away we take that personally". Get the picture, understand? Dont put words in my mouth, have you heard me complain about taking a job with MAG? NO! I dont have the victim mentality, Ill work to try and actually make things better until I leave. When Im ready to leave I will do so.

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Old 05-19-2008 | 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by hdale
Trash,
GO! is part of Mesa, not gojet. Get your facts straight before you post. Mesa is not Go Jet
Oops. Not too sure what I was thinking.
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Old 05-19-2008 | 10:38 PM
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I think the best part of reading through the "GoJet pilots are scabs and need to burn in hell" topics, are the replies that start with "One time I had to deadhead on those guys cause it was my only option, and OMG I hate those scabs!!!111!!". Its funny how people who wouldn't work for them and can't stand anything that has to do with them will use them for a free flight home. I personally wouldn't be using GoJet for anything if I had even an ounce of the hatred that is typed out here. Just my 2 cents. This reply isn't about anyone on this thread personally, just an observation of what I've read over the past couple months.
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Old 05-19-2008 | 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by FactoryPilot08
I think the best part of reading through the "GoJet pilots are scabs and need to burn in hell" topics, are the replies that start with "One time I had to deadhead on those guys cause it was my only option, and OMG I hate those scabs!!!111!!". Its funny how people who wouldn't work for them and can't stand anything that has to do with them will use them for a free flight home. I personally wouldn't be using GoJet for anything if I had even an ounce of the hatred that is typed out here. Just my 2 cents. This reply isn't about anyone on this thread personally, just an observation of what I've read over the past couple months.
Some of us don't have a choice but to deadhead on them. The company schedules you, and you don't get to say "No". So you're forced to sit there and wait for the dumbasses to fly you into a mountain.
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Old 05-20-2008 | 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by FactoryPilot08
I think the best part of reading through the "GoJet pilots are scabs and need to burn in hell" topics, are the replies that start with "One time I had to deadhead on those guys cause it was my only option, and OMG I hate those scabs!!!111!!". Its funny how people who wouldn't work for them and can't stand anything that has to do with them will use them for a free flight home. I personally wouldn't be using GoJet for anything if I had even an ounce of the hatred that is typed out here. Just my 2 cents. This reply isn't about anyone on this thread personally, just an observation of what I've read over the past couple months.
I know it says new hire...but ask someone who has seen a jet what the word "DEADHEAD" means. It is not the same as jumpseating. Get a clue.
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Old 05-20-2008 | 01:21 AM
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If they're my only option for a jumpseat, I'm either waiting for another flight or driving. I'll never ask those jerks for a ride.
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Old 05-20-2008 | 04:43 AM
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Originally Posted by paxhauler85
Slow it down scooter. I don't drink anything besides whiskey.

I clearly see the difference in airlines, but a tiny part of me thinks there wasn't as much foul play in HI as everyone said. I think Aloha was struggling to begin with (before JO even knew where HI was), and its been convenient to place the blame on us since they've gone under. I am by no means saying we didn't have a hand in Aloha's failure, but I find it hard to believe our 5 CRJ's brought down an entire airline.

I was simply making an arguement that this is a tough industry, and the competition (now more than ever as we all struggle to make money) is fierce.
I think judge Faris and the U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Hawaii might have a slightly differing opinion as this. It was HAL, not Aloha, that put forth the lawsuit and won. Aloha's suit is still pending.
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Old 05-20-2008 | 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by hdale
Hey Skippy, Im not your Buddy. Your either really angry , or really drunk! Reread the third line in the post, oh wait I'll put it here for you in hopes that you wont get to confused, ready here it is, "Im not saying you have personally but when people post that they hope MAG goes away we take that personally". Get the picture, understand? Dont put words in my mouth, have you heard me complain about taking a job with MAG? NO! I dont have the victim mentality, Ill work to try and actually make things better until I leave. When Im ready to leave I will do so.
Easy there super pilot. Your right, your NOT my buddy and I'm neither angry nor drunk. Perhaps I missed the minutia in your post about how it wasn't directed to me.......my bad. As far as I can see its a select few on here who wish MAG would go away and the majority feel as I do that there is no ill will towards the pilots but would like to see OJ rot in a Chinese prison cell.
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