Climategate--The Final Chapter
12-22-2011 | 05:17 AM
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wishful thinking
You and your fellow climate cranks desperately want to make this about politics but physics, biology and chemistry have no politics.
The Video Climate Deniers Tried to Ban - Climate Denial Crock of the Week - YouTube
The Video Climate Deniers Tried to Ban - Climate Denial Crock of the Week - YouTube
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12-22-2011 | 05:22 AM
#102
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boys behaving badly
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12-22-2011 | 05:28 AM
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Irony
Not hardly. You shouldn't assume I care what you think about me. I don't.
Let me tell you a story - I was cracking wise once about a denier of the president's birth place in the same way I give climate cranks grief for denying global climate destabilization. Jungle deleted my post and gave me forum demerits for being too political. I crossed the line!
This was after he and Wheeler were having a laugh about me being a watermelon ie green on the outside - red on the inside because, you know, implying someone is a Communist around here apparently isn't all that political.
http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/ha...tml#post810952
Let me tell you a story - I was cracking wise once about a denier of the president's birth place in the same way I give climate cranks grief for denying global climate destabilization. Jungle deleted my post and gave me forum demerits for being too political. I crossed the line!
This was after he and Wheeler were having a laugh about me being a watermelon ie green on the outside - red on the inside because, you know, implying someone is a Communist around here apparently isn't all that political.
http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/ha...tml#post810952
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12-22-2011 | 05:32 AM
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12-22-2011 | 05:49 AM
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oversold
This is just one of the many feedback systems that is so troubling.
Depending on what article you read, methane is 20 to 25 times more efficient at trapping heat than carbon. As the environment warms, the permafrost is melted releasing more methane which warms the environment further melting more permafrost, etcetera.
If you haven't watched the "How it all Ends" series I linked to eariler, the gradual change in climate we used to believe would take place over hundreds of years isn't the concern. It is the cataclysmic and sudden shift from feedback loops becoming their own self sustaining engine that will get us.
Depending on what article you read, methane is 20 to 25 times more efficient at trapping heat than carbon. As the environment warms, the permafrost is melted releasing more methane which warms the environment further melting more permafrost, etcetera.
If you haven't watched the "How it all Ends" series I linked to eariler, the gradual change in climate we used to believe would take place over hundreds of years isn't the concern. It is the cataclysmic and sudden shift from feedback loops becoming their own self sustaining engine that will get us.
Every day the temperature increase is an order of magnitude higher than that of the most pessimistic climate science projections. If the positive dynamic feedback was a simple as you've claimed we'd see runaway temperatures today.
Thus, either there is also negative feedback (attenuating the GHG effects), or the positive feedback is incompletely understood. Or both.
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01-02-2012 | 02:32 AM
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that's half of us
01-13-2012 | 06:44 AM
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Re: Climategate--The Final Chapter
Global warming is a national defense issue:
Climate Denial Crock of the Week - Climate Change and National Security - YouTube
Climate Denial Crock of the Week - Climate Change and National Security - YouTube
01-13-2012 | 07:59 AM
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N2264J,
I see you are back to just posting links and avoiding questions, so please educate us and answer these questions that Jungle asked.
1. Why are Mann, Jones and others hiding data, falsifying data, and presenting false conclusions?
2. What is the correct temperature for the Earth?
3. What percentage of climate change in the past was caused by man, and what percentage by natural cycles?
4.What effect would the UN proposals or cap and trade have on the climate?
What are the costs/benefits of these proposals?
I see you are back to just posting links and avoiding questions, so please educate us and answer these questions that Jungle asked.
1. Why are Mann, Jones and others hiding data, falsifying data, and presenting false conclusions?
2. What is the correct temperature for the Earth?
3. What percentage of climate change in the past was caused by man, and what percentage by natural cycles?
4.What effect would the UN proposals or cap and trade have on the climate?
What are the costs/benefits of these proposals?
01-20-2012 | 07:00 AM
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Re: Climategate--The Final Chapter
01-20-2012 | 08:44 AM
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AND we're off......
So I assume it was mans fault 10,000 years ago when the ice melted over North America and receded north to form the Great Lakes?????????
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Lakes
The Great Lakes are estimated to have been formed at the end of the last glacial period (about 10000 years ago), when the Laurentide ice sheet receded.
The earth has been here for billions of years. It heats up, it cools down. If you try to keep it at one temperature you will find that:
A: YOU CAN'T
B: If you did you would probably cause more animals to go extinct than if you left things to God(yes I said God
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