Climategate--The Final Chapter
#81
I see some posts about Michael Mann, but if this has not been posted, it's a good watch on climate change vs. those that do not accept:
TEDxPSU - Michael Mann - A Look Into Our Climate: Past To Present To Future - YouTube
Sorry if it's been posted.
TEDxPSU - Michael Mann - A Look Into Our Climate: Past To Present To Future - YouTube
Sorry if it's been posted.
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I see some posts about Michael Mann, but if this has not been posted, it's a good watch on climate change vs. those that do not accept:
TEDxPSU - Michael Mann - A Look Into Our Climate: Past To Present To Future - YouTube
Sorry if it's been posted.
TEDxPSU - Michael Mann - A Look Into Our Climate: Past To Present To Future - YouTube
Sorry if it's been posted.
See also: Hockey Stick graph-Mann's famous blunder in the world of climate prediction, long since regarded as pure fiction and again, proven incorrect by actual data.
Believe whatever you like, but we are better served by actual science than grant grubbing and emotional causes.
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Hurricane experts admit they can?t predict hurricanes early; December forecasts too unreliable
We cant model the climate 9 months out but we can 50 years out right?
We cant model the climate 9 months out but we can 50 years out right?
#84
Hurricane experts admit they can?t predict hurricanes early; December forecasts too unreliable
We cant model the climate 9 months out but we can 50 years out right?
We cant model the climate 9 months out but we can 50 years out right?
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So you dont think hurricanes are part of the climate of the SE region of the US or say any Island in the Caribbean? Interesting.
#86
Hurricane experts admit they can?t predict hurricanes early; December forecasts too unreliable
We cant model the climate 9 months out but we can 50 years out right?
We cant model the climate 9 months out but we can 50 years out right?

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#87
THIS JUST IN>>>
Shock as retreat of Arctic sea ice releases deadly greenhouse gas - Climate Change - Environment - The Independent
Drat you, Nature!!
Shock as retreat of Arctic sea ice releases deadly greenhouse gas - Climate Change - Environment - The Independent
Drat you, Nature!!
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THIS JUST IN>>>
Shock as retreat of Arctic sea ice releases deadly greenhouse gas - Climate Change - Environment - The Independent
Drat you, Nature!!
Shock as retreat of Arctic sea ice releases deadly greenhouse gas - Climate Change - Environment - The Independent
Drat you, Nature!!
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The solution is obvious, we must kill Gaia before she kills us.
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This is just one of the many feedback systems that is so troubling.
Depending on what article you read, methane is 20 to 25 times more efficient at trapping heat than carbon. As the environment warms, the permafrost is melted releasing more methane which warms the environment further melting more permafrost, etcetera.
If you haven't watched the "How it all Ends" series I linked to eariler, the gradual change in climate we used to believe would take place over hundreds of years isn't the concern. It is the cataclysmic and sudden shift from feedback loops becoming their own self sustaining engine that will get us.
Depending on what article you read, methane is 20 to 25 times more efficient at trapping heat than carbon. As the environment warms, the permafrost is melted releasing more methane which warms the environment further melting more permafrost, etcetera.
If you haven't watched the "How it all Ends" series I linked to eariler, the gradual change in climate we used to believe would take place over hundreds of years isn't the concern. It is the cataclysmic and sudden shift from feedback loops becoming their own self sustaining engine that will get us.
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