FDXLAG

Ah yes the people who think the the brokest country in the history of mankind can afford to hire daily lunch inspectors so they can tell little Suzy that mommy packed a bad lunch think that segragation ended because the federal government told them to stop. Ever been to the catfish cabin in Memphis? Thank God Truman ordered the Dodgers to call up Jackie Robinson.

jungle

Again, unrelated issues. Why the reluctance to discuss the science?

alarkyokie

Leak exposes how Heartland Institute works to undermine climate science | Environment | guardian.co.uk

jungle

You can only undermine real science by providing evidence to the contrary, the propaganda will always be there, but somehow the science is avoided like the plague in these sorts of articles.

It is unfortunate that science has been abandoned for screed.

FDXLAG

In other news Prominent alarmist organizations keep disgraced climate scientists on the payroll while accepting big bucks from businesses and governments with a stake in the climate change power grab.

JamesNoBrakes

Well, here's the thing, I've actually done research under a grant. I guess you think they are "handing these things out" to anyone who wants them, but nothing is further from the truth. If you don't support your findings/proposal and use scientific process, you look like an idiot and there are no grants to be found. I'm not sure what kind of "holiday" you think this stuff is for these people.

These "scientists" are usually students working on degees under the guidance of professors, the professors are the ones that usually stamp their name on the reports in many cases, but in some cases the students do and in some cases it's just those professors, but they aren't a bunch of people wearing lab coats with goggles that go to work and play with chemistry sets all day or something.

It sure is easy for you to sit on the sidelines and try to knock those who actually go through scientific process. Why don't you put your money where your mouth is and do the same thing? I guess I'm living proof that it's possible to not be "corrupted"...

jungle

Any chance you will ever at some point in the near term future get around to the actual scientific results, or is it your desire to hold us in suspense?

Since many of the models based purely on manmade CO2 have, over time, proven to be totally incorrect, it is by practical application that we must rely on actual results and data over time.
This means practical results in both our ability to control the climate, which is doubtful, and practical results from both a scientific and economic outlook. What say ye?

FDXLAG

And if there were no man made global warming, what would happen to all those students and professors?

The article I was responding to; wasnt that knocking actual scientists going through the scientific process? That is the whole point isnt it; plenty of my money is apparently going where your mouth is (man I like that last line).

tomgoodman

The ones who proved that might become famous, like Michelson and Morley. Sometimes an unexpected "Null Result" is the very best kind of Science, and leads to the Nobel Prize.

JamesNoBrakes

They would have found other projects, made better models, studied tornados or thunderstorms, currents, etc. You seriously believe the field of meteorlogy is that limited?