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Old 11-28-2018, 08:41 AM
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Guess I shoulda went Spirit?
Heck yeah, we are so broke at Spirit, we canít even pay attention to readbacks.

You would love it, remind you of your Colgan days
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Old 11-28-2018, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Ducttape View Post
Heck yeah, we are so broke at Spirit, we canít even pay attention to readbacks.

You would love it, remind you of your Colgan days
"I'am too broke to pay attention", very nice, going to use that from now one...
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Old 11-28-2018, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Ducttape View Post
Heck yeah, we are so broke at Spirit, we canít even pay attention to readbacks.

You would love it, remind you of your Colgan days
Was that suppose to be a good comeback?
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Old 11-28-2018, 10:37 AM
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Was that suppose to be a good comeback?
Youíre wound up pretty tight.

I made a joke about us Spirit pilots being so poor, we canít pay attention. Low pay, like Colgan. Itís called being able to laugh at yourself. You canít laugh at yourself and Colgan?

Not everything needs to be a back and forth on these forums where people try to ďcomebackĒ at people.
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Old 12-01-2018, 02:16 PM
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Every second absolutely does not count, but I can assure you many accidents can be traced to rushing.
Right. I will never forget that day when we lost those 500 poor souls to a misread pushback clearance. Such a tragedy.
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Old 12-01-2018, 02:59 PM
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Right. I will never forget that day when we lost those 500 poor souls to a misread pushback clearance. Such a tragedy.
Behavior patterns are real, if you cut corners or rush in one area you are more likely to do it in others as well.
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Old 12-01-2018, 03:50 PM
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Behavior patterns are real, if you cut corners or rush in one area you are more likely to do it in others as well.
A thousand times this.

You're reminding me of every time a CA talks over me doing the pushback checklist (usually, which I'm doing without him calling for it because he just straight up told the crew to push), or reads back his own checklist responses without looking at the indications, or does this nervous twitch when we're holding short of somewhere and every 20 seconds he lets go of the brakes and we roll forward a little, or pushes "execute" on the FMS without me confirming, etc.

Why isn't it a surprise all these things usually come in a package?
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Old 12-01-2018, 05:31 PM
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If both pilots hear the pushback clearance, why should the CA have to wait on the FO to read it back and brief him on it, before he tells the tug crew? Itís not that complicated, nor is it a high risk event.

Thereís a diffference between rushing and working fast. That being said, not everyone can function at the same pace. Apparently some canít even get off the gate without feeling insulted by their coworkers.

...and yes when you are dealing with ATC, every second does count. If you donít believe so, go fly multiple legs to busy airports with flow control, and see how well that out works for ya.
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Old 12-01-2018, 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by FollowMe View Post
Behavior patterns are real, if you cut corners or rush in one area you are more likely to do it in others as well.
Sorry I rush to get get paid. After that I go as slow as I need
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Originally Posted by vessbot View Post
A thousand times this.

You're reminding me of every time a CA talks over me doing the pushback checklist (usually, which I'm doing without him calling for it because he just straight up told the crew to push), or reads back his own checklist responses without looking at the indications, or does this nervous twitch when we're holding short of somewhere and every 20 seconds he lets go of the brakes and we roll forward a little, or pushes "execute" on the FMS without me confirming, etc.

Why isn't it a surprise all these things usually come in a package?
So you start the checklist while the captain is talking to someone else?

You get sad when the captain presses buttons without your permission?

You sound like a joy to fly with, I bet you'll be a great captain
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