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Old 12-12-2018, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by TransWorld View Post
The Children of the Magenta. It is a great 25 minute video, especially for those starting out.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pN41LvuSz10
wasn't he partially blamed for the queens crash in 2001?
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Old 12-12-2018, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Slaphappy View Post
wasn't he partially blamed for the queens crash in 2001?
Was he the FO???
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Old 12-12-2018, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
Was he the FO???

The NTSB official finding was that American Airlines' Advanced Aircraft Maneuvering Program was a contributing factor. The "Children of the Magenta" guy was also involved in the Advanced Aircraft Maneuvering Program.
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Old 12-12-2018, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Adlerdriver View Post
Agreed. Maybe someone can explain what's on a "Before Pushback" checklist that couldn't be combined with the "Before Start" checklist. Do the one checklist, THEN call for push. Works just fine.

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If we wait for the FAs to arm the slides and the ramp to close the pits to start briefing the departure etc we’ll be late.

At UAL today the before push is just Fuel Doors Seatbelts. Pretty quick. Everything else is on the first one. Still split cockpit also.
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Old 12-12-2018, 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ReadyRsv View Post
If we wait for the FAs to arm the slides and the ramp to close the pits to start briefing the departure etc we’ll be late.
What’s briefing the departure have to do with pushing and starting? You can’t just brief the departure whenever you want? Is it on a checklist?
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Old 12-13-2018, 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Adlerdriver View Post
What’s briefing the departure have to do with pushing and starting? You can’t just brief the departure whenever you want? Is it on a checklist?
At some airlines it's on a checklist which has to be completed before push.
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Old 12-13-2018, 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
At some airlines it's on a checklist which has to be completed before push.
Okay. I'm still not seeing the problem and don't understand this comment (below):

Originally Posted by ReadyRsv View Post
If we wait for the FAs to arm the slides and the ramp to close the pits to start briefing the departure etc we’ll be late.
Don't wait until the FAs arm the slides and the pits to be closed. Brief the departure well before that so you're ready when the FAs and rampers are done. When you get to that item on the checklist, you say "complete" and move on with the push.

Or do you have to actually brief the departure as you read the item on the checklist?
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Old 12-13-2018, 10:05 AM
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Without getting into a checklist ****ing contest. There are 2 checklists at my airline. One is involved and take some time and should be done well ahead of push. The other has three items making sure you are safe to release the parking brakes and go. They are separate for good reason.

Starting engines is on captain’s command and requires no checklist.
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Old 12-18-2018, 02:39 PM
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Tool of the day:

The FA who spends all day talking about how customers just need to suck it up and deal with the fact that we're 30+ minutes late but then throws a hissy-fit when the hotel van is 5 minutes late.

Also me for complaining about a guy blinding us with his strobes taking the runway and subsequently forgetting to turn ours off after crossing a runway.
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Old 12-18-2018, 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by KodiakRS View Post
Also me for complaining about a guy blinding us with his strobes taking the runway and subsequently forgetting to turn ours off after crossing a runway.
I remember parking at the gate, noticing the “pop-pop” of some Airbus strobes, and silently chastising the tool next to us that left them on all the way to the gate. I also remember eventually realizing the tool next to us didn’t leave his strobes on. The tool was , well, evident at that point.
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