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Old 05-16-2012, 12:36 PM
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Everyone arguing about scope in the TOTD thread is a TOOL.
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Old 05-16-2012, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by scambo1 View Post
No facts to back this up, but I'm thinking this will be OBE.
I hope so. That and the "unlimited codeshare" with outsource lift providers AS and soon to be JB would be disasterous for the entire profession.
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Old 05-16-2012, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Boomer View Post
Gloopy,

I know the Delta crew wouldn't land on a taxiway full of aircraft.

However, all normal safeguards were bypassed when the pilot began the flare over the taxiway. At that point, the landing crew would be powerless to prevent an accident had another aircraft entered the eastern third of taxiway Mike. It is not a major stretch to say that this would have been a disaster.

At that time of day, a taxiing crew "clearing left" would have thought the distant aircraft lights were landing on the parallel runway, and a good chance they would have proceeded onto the taxiway.

It was pretty much dumb luck that no other aircraft pulled onto the taxiway during their landing roll. That said, I don't question the professionalism or experience of the pilots involved.
I get that, and admit it "could" have been a trajedy. Any incursion could, and all airlines have them. I'd say the average regional pilot is as good a stick as the average in the industry. The problem is everything inherent to the regional cut throat low bid only get the RFP if you are one penny cheaper system manifests itself into more pilot pushing and more dangerous (or less safe) work rules than the average major. There is also more "green on green" from a total time perspective and when you combine all that something has to give.
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Old 05-16-2012, 05:43 PM
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once flew with a captain that briefed "our call sign is xxx" on the descent checklist after having used the same call sign for months at a time. Seriously, people who talk just to hear their own voice like that is very toolish.
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Old 05-16-2012, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by CriticalMach View Post
Donkeys are leaner...
You could eat a donkey if you really had to...

(He didn't really say that did he? Now he'll have the PETA all over him...)

Self nomination for TOTD!

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Old 05-16-2012, 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by bcrosier View Post
You could eat a donkey if you really had to...

(He didn't really say that did he? Now he'll have the PETA all over him...)
COOL of the day! And just in time, too.
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Old 05-16-2012, 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Boomer View Post
Gloopy,

I know the Delta crew wouldn't land on a taxiway full of aircraft.

However, all normal safeguards were bypassed when the pilot began the flare over the taxiway. At that point, the landing crew would be powerless to prevent an accident had another aircraft entered the eastern third of taxiway Mike. It is not a major stretch to say that this would have been a disaster.

At that time of day, a taxiing crew "clearing left" would have thought the distant aircraft lights were landing on the parallel runway, and a good chance they would have proceeded onto the taxiway.

It was pretty much dumb luck that no other aircraft pulled onto the taxiway during their landing roll. That said, I don't question the professionalism or experience of the pilots involved.
Keep in mind that the tower controller realized at the last minute that they were lined up on the taxiway, but elected to NOT cancel their landing clearance because there were no other aircraft moving on that side of the airport. If there had been aircraft on the taxiway, or close to it, the ASDR would have issued a traffic conflict to the controller in plenty of time. Ever wonder why you are supposed to have your transponder on in ATL?
While this doesn't absolve the crew of all responsibility, it was one of the extenuating circumstances and why the FAA wasn't in a big rush to crucify the crew.
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Old 05-16-2012, 08:39 PM
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Come on tools, if you want to re hash the ATL incident I suggest starting a new thread.
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Old 05-16-2012, 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by CriticalMach View Post
Donkeys are leaner...
You could eat a donkey if you really had to...

(He didn't really say that did he? Now he'll have the PETA all over him...)

Self nomination for TOTD!
You could eat a bowling ball if you really had to, too

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Old 05-16-2012, 10:37 PM
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The tools of the day are destroying this thread. I'm not a happy tool.
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