Tool of the day
09-13-2015, 09:10 PM
#6861
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The tool of them all is always the gate agent who won't list you on your own metal because the new rule is "30 minutes check in time." Umm no. I literally had to call our dispatcher to ACARS the captain to come and get me on my own JS. She really didn't want to spend 60 seconds CASSING me.
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09-13-2015, 10:06 PM
#6862
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A couple guys I knew who flew a Traffic Watch C-172 while wearing the full monkey suit, four stripes and all.
Now before you say 'Well, they're just complying with company policy," well, I worked for the same operation. The uniform 'policy' was essentially "Don't fly naked," and that was about it.
So 99% of us would show up in shorts and a T-shirt...(maybe a polo shirt and slacks if we were feeling classy)...while these two dudes showed up wearing full regalia. Aviator sunglasses, white collared shirt with four stripes on each shoulder, wings, and a lanyard – which, I might add, had nothing attached to it except for their pilot certificates, since we didn't have company ID and didn't need SIDA badges. Come to think of it, the wings may have been those plastic junior pilot wings.
Now, I understand their desire to look professional, but there's professional, and then there's just plain dorky. I don't care who you are, nobody looks good getting out of a beat-up Traffic Watch 172 in the full costume.
Now before you say 'Well, they're just complying with company policy," well, I worked for the same operation. The uniform 'policy' was essentially "Don't fly naked," and that was about it.
So 99% of us would show up in shorts and a T-shirt...(maybe a polo shirt and slacks if we were feeling classy)...while these two dudes showed up wearing full regalia. Aviator sunglasses, white collared shirt with four stripes on each shoulder, wings, and a lanyard – which, I might add, had nothing attached to it except for their pilot certificates, since we didn't have company ID and didn't need SIDA badges. Come to think of it, the wings may have been those plastic junior pilot wings.
Now, I understand their desire to look professional, but there's professional, and then there's just plain dorky. I don't care who you are, nobody looks good getting out of a beat-up Traffic Watch 172 in the full costume.
09-13-2015, 10:08 PM
#6863
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Oh, one more...
The passenger who complains loudly while deplaning that 'this airline is going to make me miss my connection!"...
...even though you've just arrived at the gate 20 minutes early.
Happened twice on my last 4-day. What is it about air travel that makes the general population lose an average of 30 IQ points the moment they set foot inside a terminal?
The passenger who complains loudly while deplaning that 'this airline is going to make me miss my connection!"...
...even though you've just arrived at the gate 20 minutes early.
Happened twice on my last 4-day. What is it about air travel that makes the general population lose an average of 30 IQ points the moment they set foot inside a terminal?
09-14-2015, 04:13 AM
#6864
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Originally Posted by John Carr
Well, it's OBVIOUSLY NOT the airline you work for 
And you are obviously NOT understanding what I'm saying. Because they screw their OWN guys in the process.
Again, you're not understanding. You are assuming ALL airlines have the same policies and procedures, THEY DON'T. You ever done any JS committee work? This stuff gets real interesting.
See above, it's NOT the airline where the "flow back" verbiage is used, nor an FA JS is an option.
Let me break it down for you this way........
Scenario 1)
Standing in the boarding area. A pilot (non-tool) comes up and says "hey man, I'm listed on the jumpseat, but I ALSO listed for a seat in the back. Hopefully I clear on my SA pass and we BOTH get home today". Again, this is the NON-TOOL variety/experienced commuter.
Scenario 2)
The tool variety; Standing in the boarding area, pilot walks up. "Are you trying to JS? I already listed for it. I didn't bother listing for a seat in the back". Dude walks off.....
He WON'T "flow" to the back, he never listed.
NON-TOOL pilot walks up "hey man, I'm on the JS also. I'm also listed for a seat in the back. That other guy (TOOL) can probably hold a seat in the back, I'm too junior too. If he listed for a seat in the back, I'd get on the JS. But he's not the type to list for both and considerate of other commuters".
Does that make sense and clear it up?
And you are obviously NOT understanding what I'm saying. Because they screw their OWN guys in the process.
Again, you're not understanding. You are assuming ALL airlines have the same policies and procedures, THEY DON'T. You ever done any JS committee work? This stuff gets real interesting.
See above, it's NOT the airline where the "flow back" verbiage is used, nor an FA JS is an option.
Let me break it down for you this way........
Scenario 1)
Standing in the boarding area. A pilot (non-tool) comes up and says "hey man, I'm listed on the jumpseat, but I ALSO listed for a seat in the back. Hopefully I clear on my SA pass and we BOTH get home today". Again, this is the NON-TOOL variety/experienced commuter.
Scenario 2)
The tool variety; Standing in the boarding area, pilot walks up. "Are you trying to JS? I already listed for it. I didn't bother listing for a seat in the back". Dude walks off.....
He WON'T "flow" to the back, he never listed.
NON-TOOL pilot walks up "hey man, I'm on the JS also. I'm also listed for a seat in the back. That other guy (TOOL) can probably hold a seat in the back, I'm too junior too. If he listed for a seat in the back, I'd get on the JS. But he's not the type to list for both and considerate of other commuters".
Does that make sense and clear it up?
09-14-2015, 04:51 AM
#6866
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Originally Posted by Turbosina
What is it about air travel that makes the general population lose an average of 30 IQ points the moment they set foot inside a terminal?
with an average SAT reading score of 496, 2012's graduating seniors have the dubious distinction of having attained the worst reading score since 1972.
SAT Reading Scores Are the Lowest Since 1972
SAT Reading Scores Are the Lowest Since 1972
Need more proof?
09-14-2015, 05:57 AM
#6868
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Originally Posted by Sputnik
Interesting you take so many life lessons from movies, as opposed to life or actual history.
Walk into any deloyed SOF camp. You'll be surprised at the lack of grooming standards and uniform uniformity. And yet....somehow they do what they do well.
Patton said what he said. He also picked his own uniforms.
Walk into any deloyed SOF camp. You'll be surprised at the lack of grooming standards and uniform uniformity. And yet....somehow they do what they do well.
Patton said what he said. He also picked his own uniforms.
09-14-2015, 06:59 AM
#6869
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Originally Posted by John Carr
On my own "metal", I ALWAYS list for a seat in the back on a pass, as well as the JS.
09-14-2015, 07:10 AM
#6870
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Originally Posted by John Carr
Does that make sense and clear it up?
I'm lucky only to have to commute on my own company's jets, so I'm unfamiliar with other companies' policies.
As Justdoinmyjob said, at DAL you can't list for both a JS and non-rev on the same flight, which is why your argument didn't make sense to me. Neither can you list for a JS or non-rev on more than one flight on the same city-pair on the same day. Keeps people from blocking all the seats, especially the JSs.
The situation you described is pretty crappy. I agree, they're toolish.
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