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Old 10-09-2013, 12:29 PM
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"Roger That" in 40 years of flying, I have never heard that term except on tv and a bunch of corny movies.
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Old 10-09-2013, 06:36 PM
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royer.....that one is bad.
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Old 10-09-2013, 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Roll Inverted and Pull View Post
"Roger That" in 40 years of flying, I have never heard that term except on tv and a bunch of corny movies.
The DPE who administered my ATP checkride was doing his part to be an approach controller, and he didn't stop saying that the entire time. I'd give him an approach or clearance request, and he'd say 'roger that' every time.
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Old 10-10-2013, 07:54 AM
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I know this is the correct way to say it, but I hate when controllers say "tree".
Yeah, but when flying around the world in most ICAO airspace that's exactly how you want to say it... good habits carry.

I frankly hate when I hear US Pilots flying around the world and talking like they're still flying for Expressjet or Eagle.. Standard Phraseology is not only important for safety, but makes you and your airline look more professional.

As for other things I don't care for...

Using "Heavy" in the callsign with center subsequent to first check in when the controller doesn't use it in the his response. Or with approach controllers around the world in the same situation.

Guys on HF using "eleven" instead of "one one" etc..
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Old 10-10-2013, 08:42 AM
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The DPE who administered my ATP checkride was doing his part to be an approach controller, and he didn't stop saying that the entire time. I'd give him an approach or clearance request, and he'd say 'roger that' every time.
Roger Dodger!
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Old 10-11-2013, 08:26 PM
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I remember having to complete a a few days of classes geared specifically towards radiotelephony during my PPL course. Standard points covered included saying the phrase Affirm, instead of Affirmative which I'm not sure is still ICAO standard as it was due to poor radio transmission quality of days past. The term affirmative may have been heard as negative, so that's one thing that always stuck. Also remember that ICAO numbers stop at 9(in terms of enunciation), therefore I always enunciate altitudes such as 17,500 as (wun-seh-ven thousand fife hundred). Of course that seems not to apply to actual flight numbers and I've yet to research the 'official' ICAO phraseology for flight numbers. eg. I always hear 2263 as twenty- two sixty-three in the US whereas in International airspace for the most part it's enunciated as too-too-six-tree.

All in all I join in for standard phraseology at all times but also see nothing wrong with tasteful greetings/salutations.

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Old 10-11-2013, 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Speedbird2263 View Post
I remember having to complete a a few days of classes geared specifically towards radiotelephony during my PPL course. Standard points covered included saying the phrase Affirm, instead of Affirmative which I'm not sure is still ICAO standard as it was due to poor radio transmission quality of days past. The term affirmative may have been heard as negative, so that's one thing that always stuck. Also remember that ICAO numbers stop at 9(in terms of enunciation), therefore I always enunciate altitudes such as 17,500 as (wun-seh-ven thousand fife hundred). Of course that seems not to apply to actual flight numbers and I've yet to research the 'official' ICAO phraseology for flight numbers. eg. I always hear 2263 as twenty- two sixty-three in the US whereas in International airspace for the most part it's enunciated as too-too-six-tree.

All in all I join in for standard phraseology at all times but also see nothing wrong with tasteful greetings/salutations.

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HF reception is still poor, especially if the frequency you're on is one of the weak ones along your route at that time.
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Old 10-12-2013, 05:30 PM
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Using "Heavy" in the callsign with center subsequent to first check in when the controller doesn't use it in the his response. Or with approach controllers around the world in the same situation.
This right here. I feel terribly awkward for anyone that happens to. It feels contrived. It only gets said if they're saying it IMO. Especially if you're no longer with Departure or App control.
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Old 10-18-2013, 07:30 AM
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How non-pilots may be indoctrinated into our lingo.

How To Speak Like A Pilot - Business Insider

The author could have come up with quite a few interesting waypoint names if she had read through APC!
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Old 10-22-2013, 03:25 AM
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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR View Post
How non-pilots may be indoctrinated into our lingo.

How To Speak Like A Pilot - Business Insider

The author could have come up with quite a few interesting waypoint names if she had read through APC!

Where'd that thread go ? I can't locate it and I wouldn't mind sending it to her so she could really get a kick.
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