American Eagle to hire
01-06-2010, 06:34 AM
#31
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Position: CR7 FO
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A lot of people on this forum are very quick with the sophomoric "Eagle has really comfy right seats" comments and the standard "first year pay sucks at regionals" quip. Sure they are true, but the comments are not constructive and at this point if you have been on this forum for any amount of time John Madden himself could accuse you of pointing out the obvious.
The rest of those stories are slightly...slightly more rosy. Eagle has a very senior pilot group for a lot of reasons mostly because folks here bypassed the major transition a few years ago because they thought they would flow up to AA, which didn't happen (it might soon for 244). Some senior pilots here never intended to go up to a major and were content with good equipment, high seniority and reasonable work rules. Everyone in the pilot group has a long-term vested interest in keeping this airline alive, and making it a good place to work and it shows. Chief pilots respect their employees and are typically very helpful and honest when you need their assistance. I called in fatigued once and through a voluntary review system, had it removed from my record, and pay restored. I call in sick and am never questioned about it.
Regional pay and benefits are all pretty much the same and we would all like to see them improved. Show me a working American who doesn't feel the same way and I'll show you a liar. Its the little things that make a few regionals just a little bit more tolerable than the rest and as those airlines go, Eagle is certainly among the top few. Its not the best airline in the world but it is very far from the worst.
People on an anonymous forum are quick to rip on others but if we were all having a face to face discussion I doubt the tone of this thread would be the same. I am very content with my job and would encourage any other unemployed or underemployed pilot in this country who is competent and doesn't have a sense that this industry "owes" them something to apply for these position.
It sounds like the whole "friends and family" system will be the first filter for the thousands of applications CC is about to receive so if you know someone at Eagle, give them a call. If you have any specific questions about QOL issues, the interview/training process or anything else, send me a PM.
The rest of those stories are slightly...slightly more rosy. Eagle has a very senior pilot group for a lot of reasons mostly because folks here bypassed the major transition a few years ago because they thought they would flow up to AA, which didn't happen (it might soon for 244). Some senior pilots here never intended to go up to a major and were content with good equipment, high seniority and reasonable work rules. Everyone in the pilot group has a long-term vested interest in keeping this airline alive, and making it a good place to work and it shows. Chief pilots respect their employees and are typically very helpful and honest when you need their assistance. I called in fatigued once and through a voluntary review system, had it removed from my record, and pay restored. I call in sick and am never questioned about it.
Regional pay and benefits are all pretty much the same and we would all like to see them improved. Show me a working American who doesn't feel the same way and I'll show you a liar. Its the little things that make a few regionals just a little bit more tolerable than the rest and as those airlines go, Eagle is certainly among the top few. Its not the best airline in the world but it is very far from the worst.
People on an anonymous forum are quick to rip on others but if we were all having a face to face discussion I doubt the tone of this thread would be the same. I am very content with my job and would encourage any other unemployed or underemployed pilot in this country who is competent and doesn't have a sense that this industry "owes" them something to apply for these position.
It sounds like the whole "friends and family" system will be the first filter for the thousands of applications CC is about to receive so if you know someone at Eagle, give them a call. If you have any specific questions about QOL issues, the interview/training process or anything else, send me a PM.
01-06-2010, 06:59 AM
#33
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Let's see: Chick-Fil-A pays $8 an hour. No benefits. 8x40 hours= $320 a week. No vacation, so $320x52=$16640
Last time I checked $22,500 with benefits is more than $16640 without. People accept it because even if you make a carrer at Eagle, a $100k paycheck still isn't bad down the road.
Should the Regionals pay more, esecially first year, yes. Let's not gild the lilly on how bad it is.
Last time I checked $22,500 with benefits is more than $16640 without. People accept it because even if you make a carrer at Eagle, a $100k paycheck still isn't bad down the road.
Should the Regionals pay more, esecially first year, yes. Let's not gild the lilly on how bad it is.
Originally Posted by Dan64456
eh, it's still horrible. No one in any 121 cockpit should make less than someone working at Chick-Fil-A. People accept it tho, and that's why it is the way it is.
01-06-2010, 07:16 AM
#34
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Originally Posted by jonnyjetprop
Let's see: Chick-Fil-A pays $8 an hour. No benefits. 8x40 hours= $320 a week. No vacation, so $320x52=$16640
Last time I checked $22,500 with benefits is more than $16640 without. People accept it because even if you make a carrer at Eagle, a $100k paycheck still isn't bad down the road.
Should the Regionals pay more, esecially first year, yes. Let's not gild the lilly on how bad it is.
Last time I checked $22,500 with benefits is more than $16640 without. People accept it because even if you make a carrer at Eagle, a $100k paycheck still isn't bad down the road.
Should the Regionals pay more, esecially first year, yes. Let's not gild the lilly on how bad it is.
22,500 / 12 (months in a year) = 1875 a month
1875 - 550 (school loan, and that’s being EXTREMELY conservative) = 1325 per month...
15,900 per year.
Chick-fil-A at Eastwood Village Assistant Manager Job Overview
We are looking for leaders who desire to work in a fast paced environment. We are closed on Sunday. Starting pay is between $10-12 per hour on a 45 hour work week. Health Insurance is available. Responsibilities include, but not limited to: Customer Service, team leadership of 15-20 team members, inventory control, cash management, scheduling of 60 team members and training.
Job requirements
DrivingValid Driver’s License
Minimum Age18+ years old
No school loan required...
We will say 11 dollars per hour. 11x45x52=25740 per year
And you can move up to a GM later on...
Further South, the pay gets better. Some make over 21 dollars per hour. Check this out:
jobbi - Job Post Details - Chick-fil-A Assistant Manager
01-06-2010, 07:20 AM
#35
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Originally Posted by Dan64456
eh, it's still horrible. No one in any 121 cockpit should make less than someone working at Chick-Fil-A. People accept it tho, and that's why it is the way it is.
What's your schedule for getting that GM spot at Chick-Fil-A ?
01-06-2010, 07:25 AM
#36
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Position: ERJ - 145
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Any updates on the mins required to apply? I know OP said 1000/100 but wondering if anything official. Do you know if schools with bridge programs and lowered mins are still being honored? In general, I am surprised the mins are so low - I was expecting at least ATP, if not higher.
01-06-2010, 07:29 AM
#37
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Originally Posted by eaglefly
As someone who doesn't work here, who cares what you think about Eagle............your opinion on this subject is pointless. But hey.................If you're satisified working at both McD's and Chick-Fil-A with an occasional 172 landing thrown in, good for you.
What's your schedule for getting that GM spot at Chick-Fil-A ?
What's your schedule for getting that GM spot at Chick-Fil-A ?
Not that I'm happy with my job or anything, but just making a point...
And I hate to see anyone; especially hardworking professionals get taken advantage of. And as an outsider to your career - if my opinion still doesn't matter (that you guys should be paid WAY way more), then I'm sorry.
Last edited by Dan64456; 01-06-2010 at 08:02 AM.
01-06-2010, 07:31 AM
#38
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Originally Posted by jonnyjetprop
Let's see: Chick-Fil-A pays $8 an hour. No benefits. 8x40 hours= $320 a week. No vacation, so $320x52=$16640
Last time I checked $22,500 with benefits is more than $16640 without. People accept it because even if you make a carrer at Eagle, a $100k paycheck still isn't bad down the road.
Should the Regionals pay more, esecially first year, yes. Let's not gild the lilly on how bad it is.
Last time I checked $22,500 with benefits is more than $16640 without. People accept it because even if you make a carrer at Eagle, a $100k paycheck still isn't bad down the road.
Should the Regionals pay more, esecially first year, yes. Let's not gild the lilly on how bad it is.
01-06-2010, 07:41 AM
#39
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Originally Posted by odog1121
You forget housing assistance, food stamps, heat assistance, Medicaid and school lunch programs, some qualify for cell phone assistance, no federal income tax liability, maybe even a few thousand worth of refundable child tax credit. In a few years they will have healthcare. I'm sure I missed some other benefits as well. All this without a GED. With all the handouts, they're probably better off than a second year FO. Never the less I wouldn't trade places with them.
01-06-2010, 07:58 AM
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For everyone's information, newhires will spend 7 weeks in DFW for training. You are paid 60 hours a month while in training and 16 hours of per diem at $1.80 per day. That comes out to about $78 per day while in training. You will have a roommate until the systems test about 4 weeks into training. If you are lucky like me, or a girl, you might get a room to yourself. I got my own room because my assigned roommate lived in DFW. Your benefits will start day 2 or 3. You can use CASS and jumpseat home on another airline or use the AA benefits and pay to nonrev on AA. Year 2 pay will start one year from your first day of indoc.
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