you share a 2 bed room, you can't travel b/c until you complete your check-ride b/c during training you are considered a independent contractor. you are not hired until you pass your check-ride. So no pass bennies or CASS

Unless you are management that is... they mysteriously do have buddy passes.... Listed all the time in dlnet...

I just threw up in my mouth a little bit just by typing it...

What a joke.

Is any of this going to change?

This needs to change.

I doubt it. We did a little b!tch n moaning about it and we where told by management that this was in the package benefit imposed by delta without any other options. Later it was revealed this was a big lie. It just happened to be the cheapest travel benefit package available for a dci carrier post merger...

However, this seemed to be acceptable by our pilot group, since this issue has loooong been forgotten...

Awesome. :rolleyes:

Here let me fix this for you.

There. Just incase there was any confustion. :) 1 room. 2 beds.

haha, thanks :p

I called the hotel and asked about the room situation and they told me that Pinnacle pilot new hires are not sharing rooms fwiw

good to hear, i was only basing it on my experience three years ago

Thanks for the info.

Is it true that you have to travel WITH your parents when they fly on their passes?

You don't have to travel with your parents when they fly on their ZED fares.

Pinnacle parents have the same priority on Delta as they do on American, Southwest, Jetblue, etc...

My dad just flew by himself last week on Delta mainline.

So you new guys know, your hire date is now the day that you start class. So that means you get your employee badge when you start class. You will be able to jumpseat, if they have you in CASS yet. Enjoy....

You wont be in CASS until you pass your checkride. So you will not be able to jumpseat.

Cass is only required if you occupy the jumpseat.

thats what I thought too, class starts 8:00 tomorrow, man I wish we were CASS on day one :(

Good luck getting that point through to the gate agent...

thats awesome!

Anybody going to the interview next week? I got a call today and was told to get a current first class medical and call back before they would schedule an interview sometime in a next week. He was not sure what date it would be.

I am furloughed and have not flown over a year. Did anyone having the similar background got through the interview or a call from Pinnacle?

I have a interview thursday. I had not flown in 2 years. I just went up last week and got current. Good luck to you.

what were your times? Did someone walk in your stuff?

Got a call over a month ago from the chief pilot. Turned it down, the pay is just not worth the hassle. I have no idea how they got my info.

It's quite simple. If you don't show up in CASS, you can still jumpseat, just not in the jumpseat. Agents know this.

So I'd say your wish of good luck will be well received.

No. Under the former NW system though you did have to travel with buddy pass riders. No longer the case with friendlier DL pass bennies.

Not too sure about "friendlier" pass bennies from DL: we lost our buddy passes, we can only fly overseas 3 legs a year now, after that we start paying, we also lost positive space purchases at 30% discount, and to top it off we now even have to pay $50 out of our own pocket every year for these pass benefits!!

Yeah second the post above mine... we don't see any of these "friendlier" pass benefits with Pinnacle at the helm...

I love how they picked 3 legs, as if somehow someone is going to be able to use that extra leg. I'm going to take a trip with that extra leg they so generously give out and then call in to crew scheduling and tell them that I am stuck indefinitely in Europe until next year when the pass benefits reset and I get another 3 legs.

The third leg was designed to allow you to continue your journey if you had to make a one-stop coming across the international date line. Technically, you have just one round trip transocean pass. Totally sucks.

I was at -5, I know a FA that was close to -20. Never heard a peep about it

I know several in the same spot as well. They HOPE never to hear a peep about it. I can't imagine there's a full time DAL employee tasked with auditing the DCI travel accounts.

Couldnt you just CASS on AA, Continental, United, etc over seas and pay for the taxes? I'm sure they would put you in a seat anyway, considering most transatlantic flights always have spare room (esp in First, where nobody wants to pay those astronomical prices). What is the difference between doing this and getting your yearly roundtrip pass on Delta overseas? Is the annual overseas trip a guaranteed seat or something? Is that the difference? Forgive me, I'm trying to understand why you wouldn't be able to go to Europe on multiple occasions in one year (no jokes about scheduling please ;))

So you can go with someone in your family, like a wife, kids or even parents.

I never understood why DL is the only carrier to have 'travel days' for their employees..well, regional employees anyways..used to be for ready reserves now they receive unlimited. If anything, one would think parents would be the ones limited on transoceanic travel but the DCI employees who actually wear the uniform, represent DL's image and often work the ticket counter AND ramp for less pay would at least be allowed to enjoy their hard-earned travel benefits without the worry of using that one yearly transoceanic pass. It was the policy at one time if you exceeded the initial 3, you'd be not only penalized but subject to disciplinary action...

Do you think after the new contract passes that pinnacle will get better travel benifits? Is that part of the contract negotiations?

Also, what are some things that you think will come out of this new contract if passed? Will it be industry leading (regional wise)?

Where did you hear or read this new policy?

This is straight from the top. Pinnacle is one of the only airlines that considers your DOH to be the date of your checkride. This will only be applied for SLI and nothing more.

If you are an XJ furlough this is true, if you are a true "new hire" your DOH will be when you pass your checkride. The only significance you get with the first day of class is a seniority date for seniority purposes. This has been addressed in the seniority section while working towards a JCBA but currently old practice remains.

No and No... I've been told by people on the negotiating committee Pass Travel Bennies will have nothing to do with the contract...It is strictly up to Delta and the new Delta Connection Pilot Alliance...