you don't know your schedule until 1200 (if it's out on time 63days in a row this summer it was late) the day before RSV. There is little or no definition of how RSV is assigned. There's plenty more. Company constantly trying to circumvent rules, company rules and other... that you must halt. It can be very frustrating.

caveat, living in base on rsv isn't so bad, commuting to rsv always sucks, but we make it extra suck. I was a RSV king. I knew the rules and gave no slack because I got no slack in return. you accept the game and play to win... that's a lifestyle.

What would fix it? A complete overhaul. bump flush and make new.

 

Like anything....its all relative. I came from an airline where you wouldn't know what your next days RSV assignment was until 7pm the day before. I personally like the RSV system in place, but it's easy for me to say since I live really close to BOS. For instance, once given a trip on reserve you are treated like a lineholder. No need to hang around the airport after a trip or call to get released like a lot of airlines do. There can be some days that are frustrating, so hopefully some tweaks in the CBA will make reserve better for everyone involved .

 

The problem is what you take is what you want to hear and spin.



That is the one where I agreed with you and said it won't be till retirements start here and stagnation happens at the majors.









That is where I asked you about an industry standard contract.

And that is all I said before you said I think everything will be ok with a CBA. As you can see that's a little different vs what you got out of it.

Will a CBA fix us competing with the big 3 no but it will help vs what we have now. But if we have this problem and assuming and industry standard CBA so will SWA HA and ALK correct?

As always airlines are all about seniority and how fast you can get that quick QOL which is why we will have a hard time because unless we really grow (we might) you will move slower up the list.

I don't really want to play this game of what is positive that's for each person I have things that are positive and some that are not.

 

What he said also add the fake long call that we never get.
With that said the good thing is once you get a trip and are on it it's all yours you pretty much become a line holder with all the cancellation protection and jr man pay. You don't have to call at the end of your trip you just go home. They can change your schedule or add stuff but they can really end up paying for it.

 

There’s a lot of RSV nonsense. The company is supposed to have the rsv assignments released by 1200 the day prior. There was a pretty good stretch of 40+ days where this wasn’t the case. I’ve been called out, started driving and then called back to see ay oh never mind your back to short call. I’ve been assigned a pairing and have it changed one hour into my drive. I’ve been called out with a 2 hour report to a flight that operates or DH’s report time waaaaaayyyyy before the 2 hour report window. I’ve had discussions with leadership about how a rsv can do a 16hour day extendable to 18. I’ve had long call changed to short call at 8pm then told it was an error in the software. I was supposed to be on short call. You should check the DRO. If you have a 5 day rsv availability then day 1 I’ve been assigned 0230 short call. This pretty much puts you in the window to get a 1day pairing for someone that calls out for a showtime around 0430-0530. Then the next day same thing. I know guys who have got called out doe 5 consecutive 1 day rsv assignments starting on day 1of 5.

The answer to most of these nonsensical issues is that the scheduling manual doesn’t addresss the case. In that scenario you’re on rsv and they pretty much own you. This is where a CBA will be a game changer.

-Bubs

 

Agree, but if you are gonna criticise someone for being negative about JB you should probably tell us exactly what there is to be positive about?

 

A year on reserve will beat the "class" out of an Englishman.
Perfection is an illusion, but if you can, get to a real airline with a real CBA. We will always be behind with no movement.
In 2019, when the CBA passes, it will be a fine place to work- for now, you'll be away from home 3-5 days a month more than your counterparts, have garbage insurance and fly 3 day/10hr island/west coast trips. This is not in dispute- even ask the juicers.
Enjoy the ride and keep those apps/resume updated.

 

Totally agree however-
They cannot staff real reserve rules-so all this talk of a great CBA, is moot. We are a long time away from a TA and will have to wait even longer to have a CBA fully implemented.
I commend the NC and MEC but its going to be an ugly battle to get B6 to come around. We are NOT even close.
Any P2P guy who's honest will admit this. This fight is just starting in January.

 

Yes, B6 is like a very good regional airline.
Much better than Republic or Piedmont.

 

They are most definitely seeing attrition from guys bailing for FDX, UAL, and DAL. I’d say it has more to do with movement on the seniority list than it does equipment, though.