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Old 02-22-2018 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by JAH0908
sooo getting back on track here...

anyone hear back? (good or bad)
Sorry guys. Good luck!
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Old 02-22-2018 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
Don't push me? What are you the incredible Hulk? I've met you, you are definitely not the incredible Hulk.

You *overshot* even the rosy shiny glossy flashy sales pitch number for the year! And we usually never even hire the *full* rosy shiny glossy flashy sales pitch number! On top of that, that number is pretty much useless to 95-98% of our pilots because we usually only net 75% of the rosy shiny glossy flashy sales pitch number to the list!

Good grief!

Yes I guess we did meet but you had the advantage of knowing who I was which is pretty easy because I don’t hide my name.
Someone asked a question I said 300 ish which is much closer to the numbers than yours. There was no RA RA it was an answer to a question and hardly a definitive one. (Think and ish)

I said don’t push me because I know exactly your game with the PMs to prove it.(it’s not earth shattering to anyone that’s been paying attention to you) I still think it’s sad and I still think you are happy to F over future applicants to further your goals and in doing so you tell yourself you are really helping them. Most people can see through your act.

But please feel free to introduce yourself again in person.
This is certainly not the avenue I wanted to go down with you but you can’t help but be a jerk. I don’t appreciate the Incredible Hulk comment which seems like yet another insult from you.(shocking)

That’s all you do is belittle and mock and call people names on here.
I’m a little sick of it. Some how I have a feeling the keyboard gives you bigger balls than you have in real life. There are a few on here that try to give an HONEST opinion and you can’t even respect that.
Your idea of a debate is for you to talk and everyone else to listen and agree.

I think the most ironic thing was as much as you make me out to be a juicer and a company man, I volunteered for the union helping pilots I have always worn my lanyard I have been to the rally’s and stood out there in the cold while you were, oh that’s right sacrificing by going to work. There is no way you were not senior enough to hold it off. You are just a lot of talk

So in short go pound sand.


To the new hires I don’t think bluedriver has upgraded yet so you are lucky.

Good luck with your interviews 95% of the guys here are great to fly with.
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Old 02-22-2018 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
Don't push me? What are you the incredible Hulk? I've met you, you are definitely not the incredible Hulk.

You *overshot* even the rosy shiny glossy flashy sales pitch number for the year! And we usually never even hire the *full* rosy shiny glossy flashy sales pitch number! On top of that, that number is pretty much useless to 95-98% of our pilots because we usually only net 75% of the rosy shiny glossy flashy sales pitch number to the list!

Good grief!
So you’ve met Payne and didn’t introduce yourself and then come on here and post about said meeting and insult him. You show your true colors more and more every day bluedriver. You have been called out a number of times for your vitriol on here and refuse to answer the call. Man up or shut up. If you wanna bring up a meeting with Payne the least you can do is introduce yourself. I post on here under a screen name but there’s some who know who I am and I try to post on here only what I’d tell someone to their face. You obviously don’t abide by that virtue. You are the definition of an internet troll

And again sorry to the interviewees for the thread drift.
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Old 02-22-2018 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
Ha, the simple math is the company needs a certain number of NET pilots each year, and that AIN'T the 265 number they are advertising. It's less.

Go listen to the Barclays JB presentation today. They are literally bragging about how they reduced growth more every single year, year after year, since 2014.

It's the NET number that ever matters to 95-98% of us.
It has attrition slotted in it!!!!!
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Old 02-22-2018 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by rvr1800
Most airlines tell you within a week or two if the job is yours. None that I’ve ever heard of drag you along for months in the limbo of phase 2 waiting to hear if you actually have the job. Please don’t try to defend the way we do that. It’s indefensible.
OK sorry in plain english...Explanation had to do with why they did not get hired.
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Old 02-22-2018 | 07:41 PM
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1. I met Payne 5 YEARS ago. There was no reason to introduce myself at that time.

2. I do NOT trust any Juiceboxes with my identity at this stage of negotiations.

3. Payne, I said that I would no longer discourage people from coming here after we get a good CBA. I would consider that a very significant material change in conditions, thus not hypocritical.
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Old 02-22-2018 | 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by hyperboy
It has attrition slotted in it!!!!!
Exactly. Advertise hiring 265. Actually hire 250-70 who leave = 180 net which is what the company wants in the first place.
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Old 02-23-2018 | 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by rvr1800
So you’ve met Payne and didn’t introduce yourself and then come on here and post about said meeting and insult him. You show your true colors more and more every day bluedriver. You have been called out a number of times for your vitriol on here and refuse to answer the call. Man up or shut up. If you wanna bring up a meeting with Payne the least you can do is introduce yourself. I post on here under a screen name but there’s some who know who I am and I try to post on here only what I’d tell someone to their face. You obviously don’t abide by that virtue. You are the definition of an internet troll

And again sorry to the interviewees for the thread drift.
Um yeah, I met Payne 5 years ago. Take your finger off the trigger.
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Old 02-23-2018 | 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by JAH0908
sooo getting back on track here...

anyone hear back? (good or bad)
Nothing yet!
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Old 02-23-2018 | 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
1. I met Payne 5 YEARS ago. There was no reason to introduce myself at that time.

2. I do NOT trust any Juiceboxes with my identity at this stage of negotiations.

3. Payne, I said that I would no longer discourage people from coming here after we get a good CBA. I would consider that a very significant material change in conditions, thus not hypocritical.
BD, Im with you on many things, but Ive pmd guys, left a number and had decent exchanges with Hyper/Payne/Southerner et al.
There is nothing to fear from it- Your words and perceptions would have more validity and measure if you had some ex parte communication with those of whom you disagree.
Give it some thought man.
I continue to disagree with them, as Im sure they do with me, but there is respect among us and its good to hear a smidge of optimism from coworkers-even after that abhorrent letter form this $hitbox company
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