You know I did.
Do I think it will do anything no. To the outside world that looks like a bunch of pilots that are mad. Do we have valid points you bet BUT it’s like doing a political survey at CPAC or an Antifa rally the results are hardly shocking.

I don’t know bluedriver I still just get the sense that your info war is a little wrong you hold yourself up as the moral authority doing all of these pilots a favor while you have no intention on leaving. Yeah you can say you are doing it for us since this “should” put pressure on the company and you are saving future applicants from the pit of dispare but one day you will have to pivot. What if we got that CBA and we actually have a plan and are hiring like they did when you and I joined. Now will you say come here. I know and will concede I can’t argue with many of your points and there are guys (so they say) wouldn’t have come here if they knew the truth(ATR and Passer come to mind so you can save your typing)
But this whole thing strikes me as disingenuous.
And I don’t even know why I typed that all up because it will fall on deaf ears.

Anyway this CBA can’t get here soon enough but even when it does I’m not convinced the wounds will ever be healed. I never wanted to be at an airline that had labor realtions of the AA type but I think that’s where we are now. That to me is the sad part in all of this and the ELT did it.

 

BOD and it’s management “team” are solely responsible for the “culture” of the company and the resulting operational failures. They know this and right now they don’t care. When it impacts the bottom line they will care.

Hey jetblue...FUPM,

FC

 

If, IF, we ever achieve a respectable CBA (I'm not convinced with this management team, look at Spirit's TA), would that not represent a material change?

 

Now you don’t think we will get a respectable CBA?
I guess that’s news to me.


It would be a large change but I don’t see the culture really changing.
I think LSC will still micromanage everything we will just be paid more.

It’s a question that I don’t know the answer to. We still will have a mostly east coast presence with a young pilot group and no widebodys.

I guess I’m not convinced at top rate CBA will fix the attitude around here now. But it would cause movement and we would be paid a lot more but the structural issues of how the company is run day to day that leads to a lot of frustration will still remain.

So my answer is I don’t know.

 

Frustration? Naw. As long as I get paid well with decent work rules and they give me a safe and somewhat reliable airplane to operate, I could care less. If people keep showing up to pay my salary, I could care less. Just show up, do your job safely, and go home. Nothing frustrating about this job unless you let it get to you. Running around doing other people’s jobs? That’s when it gets frustrating. Trying to do juggling acts in front of the passengers? Not me.

 

Back on topic, congrats to any new hires! You will be the second lowest paid A320 pilots in the country! It beats Frontier!

 

Well when you say it like that, I have to completely agree with you.

 

Yep, welcome to the full JetBlue experience!

 

And... As another very smart dude just said, JB management completely owns and is entirely responsible for the nature of our corporate culture. They set the corporate priorities and get exactly the "culture" they want (invest in).

Period.

 

Garbage in, garbage out.