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Old 02-22-2018 | 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by pilotpayne
And bluedriver says?
What has been the NET change to the total seniority list? It's under 200 per year net since I've been here on average.
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Old 02-22-2018 | 09:06 AM
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How does the contact process work? They are currently emailing people thanks but no thank you rejections ? How do they let you know you made it to phase two? Thx
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Old 02-22-2018 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
What has been the NET change to the total seniority list? It's under 200 per year net since I've been here on average.
No he asked how many we were hiring, this year.
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Old 02-22-2018 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by pilotpayne
No he asked how many we were hiring, this year.
Well, we basically always fall short of the advertised hiring number anyways. For example, we had been saying we were going to hire 300 the last couple years. As you can see from the other guys numbers, we didn't. So I take the 265 protection with a grain of salt.

Next, we have only been netting sub 200 per year to the list on average. You know the attrition has all been in the 1-3 year range. So after the 3 years, the ONLY number that matters is the net number. Most guys get hired here with a 25-35 year career ahead of them, so for 95-98% of your career who cares if we hire 250 when the list is only going to grow by 180 anyway?

But sure, if it makes you feel better I gave the relevant number but not the shiny glossy flashy sales pitch number.

I will also point out that you overshot and exaggerated even the shiny glossy flashy sales pitch number. So, maybe you shouldn't be so critical?

Either way, take a poll on here on who wants to admit JB hasn't been a big disappointment to them during their time here??? We'll put you, Southerner, LOWpayman and Hyper down as a no. How about the rest? I'm willing to bet that poll would be near 100%.

Keep selling!
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Old 02-22-2018 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
Well, we basically always fall short of the advertised hiring number anyways. For example, we had been saying we were going to hire 300 the last couple years. As you can see from the other guys numbers, we didn't. So I take the 265 protection with a grain of salt.

Next, we have only been netting sub 200 per year to the list on average. You know the attrition has all been in the 1-3 year range. So after the 3 years, the ONLY number that matters is the net number. Most guys get hired here with a 25-35 year career ahead of them, so for 95-98% of your career who cares if we hire 250 when the list is only going to grow by 180 anyway?

But sure, if it makes you feel better I gave the relevant number but not the shiny glossy flashy sales pitch number.

I will also point out that you overshot and exaggerated even the shiny glossy flashy sales pitch number. So, maybe you shouldn't be so critical?

Either way, take a poll on here on who wants to admit JB hasn't been a big disappointment to them during their time here??? We'll put you, Southerner, LOWpayman and Hyper down as a no. How about the rest? I'm willing to bet that poll would be near 100%.

Keep selling!
Everyone is frustrated- even the juicers.
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Old 02-22-2018 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Kilroy
If you are in phase 2, would one say you pretty much got the job. It’s just the background stuff that needs completing or could you still get the TBNT even if your background is great.
No I wouldn’t say that. Most guys get past phase 2 but some don’t and are given no explanation. Definitely do not burn any bridges or quit your current job.
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Old 02-22-2018 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by rvr1800
No I wouldn’t say that. Most guys get past phase 2 but some don’t and are given no explanation. Definitely do not burn any bridges or quit your current job.
I agree with this. You have the job at this point, until you don’t. There “is” a reason you get turned down in phase 2. They won’t send a TBNT email because they filled their quota. It could be as simple as comparing that one training failure to your score on the computer test.
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Old 02-22-2018 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
Well, we basically always fall short of the advertised hiring number anyways. For example, we had been saying we were going to hire 300 the last couple years. As you can see from the other guys numbers, we didn't. So I take the 265 protection with a grain of salt.

Next, we have only been netting sub 200 per year to the list on average. You know the attrition has all been in the 1-3 year range. So after the 3 years, the ONLY number that matters is the net number. Most guys get hired here with a 25-35 year career ahead of them, so for 95-98% of your career who cares if we hire 250 when the list is only going to grow by 180 anyway?

But sure, if it makes you feel better I gave the relevant number but not the shiny glossy flashy sales pitch number.

I will also point out that you overshot and exaggerated even the shiny glossy flashy sales pitch number. So, maybe you shouldn't be so critical?

Either way, take a poll on here on who wants to admit JB hasn't been a big disappointment to them during their time here??? We'll put you, Southerner, LOWpayman and Hyper down as a no. How about the rest? I'm willing to bet that poll would be near 100%.

Keep selling!
Dude don’t push me.
I said I THINK 300ish. That’s hardly a sales pitch.
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Old 02-22-2018 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by rvr1800
No I wouldn’t say that. Most guys get past phase 2 but some don’t and are given no explanation. Definitely do not burn any bridges or quit your current job.
No airline ever gives an explanation......
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Old 02-22-2018 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
Well, we basically always fall short of the advertised hiring number anyways. For example, we had been saying we were going to hire 300 the last couple years. As you can see from the other guys numbers, we didn't. So I take the 265 protection with a grain of salt.

Next, we have only been netting sub 200 per year to the list on average. You know the attrition has all been in the 1-3 year range. So after the 3 years, the ONLY number that matters is the net number. Most guys get hired here with a 25-35 year career ahead of them, so for 95-98% of your career who cares if we hire 250 when the list is only going to grow by 180 anyway?

But sure, if it makes you feel better I gave the relevant number but not the shiny glossy flashy sales pitch number.

I will also point out that you overshot and exaggerated even the shiny glossy flashy sales pitch number. So, maybe you shouldn't be so critical?

Either way, take a poll on here on who wants to admit JB hasn't been a big disappointment to them during their time here??? We'll put you, Southerner, LOWpayman and Hyper down as a no. How about the rest? I'm willing to bet that poll would be near 100%.

Keep selling!

The reason the numbers are lower is attrition is lower....Simple math.
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