AIP.
05-21-2018, 05:17 AM
#312
The REAL Bluedriver
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Position: Airbus Capt
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Now try that on Southwest.com
If the full language TA changes that, I'll eat a Delta pilots hat.
Pay and days off are a function of pay rate x credit hours per day.
Pay rate: starts roughly 3% below SW captain rates. FO rates are even worse. Gap widens from that as our 2% raise is less than SW COLA.
Then there is the 25% of our pilots who fly the E90. Way below small mainline narrowbody rates. Way below. E95 should pay with C100 and 717. Not even close.
Credit per day: ours will now average 5ish. SW historically averages more than that.
I guess we will see though...
05-21-2018, 05:44 AM
#314
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Joined APC: Oct 2012
Position: 190 captain and “Pro-pilot”
Posts: 2,919
Scope: go to JetBlue.com and book a flight to Lisbon or Dublin.
Now try that on Southwest.com
If the full language TA changes that, I'll eat a Delta pilots hat.
Pay and days off are a function of pay rate x credit hours per day.
Pay rate: starts roughly 3% below SW captain rates. FO rates are even worse. Gap widens from that as our 2% raise is less than SW COLA.
Then there is the 25% of our pilots who fly the E90. Way below small mainline narrowbody rates. Way below. E95 should pay with C100 and 717. Not even close.
Credit per day: ours will now average 5ish. SW historically averages more than that.
I guess we will see though...
Now try that on Southwest.com
If the full language TA changes that, I'll eat a Delta pilots hat.
Pay and days off are a function of pay rate x credit hours per day.
Pay rate: starts roughly 3% below SW captain rates. FO rates are even worse. Gap widens from that as our 2% raise is less than SW COLA.
Then there is the 25% of our pilots who fly the E90. Way below small mainline narrowbody rates. Way below. E95 should pay with C100 and 717. Not even close.
Credit per day: ours will now average 5ish. SW historically averages more than that.
I guess we will see though...
Oh Bluedriver you are so missing the point. All of these maybe this and maybe that. We don’t even know the details and here you are with your standard talking points. It gets so very old. I’m disappointed in you and really ALL of you guys. Nobody has even addressed the real issue. Fml guys where have you been, are we getting white shirts or not that is the real question.
Bluedriver the above was just a joke and in no way represents my opinion of you. Ok lawyer work done.
05-21-2018, 06:02 AM
#315
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Joined APC: Mar 2012
Posts: 992
At this point, I think this is the best possible outcome for JB pilots in the short, but more importantly, the long run.
JB's ATM is over.
We put an HR chick at the head of running a Fortune 500 company. Hmmmm.....I wonder why we would do that......is it because she has experience running an airline, or do her talents/background lend themselves towards a different outcome.....
05-21-2018, 06:03 AM
#316
The REAL Bluedriver
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Joined APC: Sep 2011
Position: Airbus Capt
Posts: 6,905
Oh Bluedriver you are so missing the point. All of these maybe this and maybe that. We don’t even know the details and here you are with your standard talking points. It gets so very old. I’m disappointed in you and really ALL of you guys. Nobody has even addressed the real issue. Fml guys where have you been, are we getting white shirts or not that is the real question.
Bluedriver the above was just a joke and in no way represents my opinion of you. Ok lawyer work done.
Bluedriver the above was just a joke and in no way represents my opinion of you. Ok lawyer work done.
05-21-2018, 06:17 AM
#317
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Joined APC: Sep 2006
Posts: 332
At this point, I think this is the best possible outcome for JB pilots in the short, but more importantly, the long run.
JB's ATM is over.
We put an HR chick at the head of running a Fortune 500 company. Hmmmm.....I wonder why we would do that......is it because she has experience running an airline, or do her talents/background lend themselves towards a different outcome.....
JB's ATM is over.
We put an HR chick at the head of running a Fortune 500 company. Hmmmm.....I wonder why we would do that......is it because she has experience running an airline, or do her talents/background lend themselves towards a different outcome.....
"Before joining JetBlue, Joanna was a partner at Holland & Knight, in their Litigation Section located in New York. There, she handled complex litigation and regulatory issues, with a particular emphasis on aviation matters. She received her B.A. from the College of the Holy Cross in 1994, her Masters in International Relations from the Maxwell School of Citizenship and Public Affairs at Syracuse University in 1997, and her J.D. from Syracuse University College of Law in 1997."
Sure she's been handling HR at JetBlue, but her background is as a litigator.
05-21-2018, 06:19 AM
#318
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Posts: 992
They didn't put an HR chick at the head of the company, they put an attorney at the head of the company.
"Before joining JetBlue, Joanna was a partner at Holland & Knight, in their Litigation Section located in New York. There, she handled complex litigation and regulatory issues, with a particular emphasis on aviation matters. She received her B.A. from the College of the Holy Cross in 1994, her Masters in International Relations from the Maxwell School of Citizenship and Public Affairs at Syracuse University in 1997, and her J.D. from Syracuse University College of Law in 1997."
Sure she's been handling HR at JetBlue, but her background is as a litigator.
"Before joining JetBlue, Joanna was a partner at Holland & Knight, in their Litigation Section located in New York. There, she handled complex litigation and regulatory issues, with a particular emphasis on aviation matters. She received her B.A. from the College of the Holy Cross in 1994, her Masters in International Relations from the Maxwell School of Citizenship and Public Affairs at Syracuse University in 1997, and her J.D. from Syracuse University College of Law in 1997."
Sure she's been handling HR at JetBlue, but her background is as a litigator.
True enough. And tell me again what a lawyer would be better off handling....running a major airline operations, or facilitating a merger?
05-21-2018, 06:25 AM
#319
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Posts: 332
05-21-2018, 07:27 AM
#320
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I won’t disagree. But it’s not a buffet. You don’t get to pick one from each contract and boom we’re the best at everything. I wish we could. But we can’t.
Scope: go to JetBlue.com and book a flight to Lisbon or Dublin.
Now try that on Southwest.com
If the full language TA changes that, I'll eat a Delta pilots hat.
Pay and days off are a function of pay rate x credit hours per day.
Pay rate: starts roughly 3% below SW captain rates. FO rates are even worse. Gap widens from that as our 2% raise is less than SW COLA.
Then there is the 25% of our pilots who fly the E90. Way below small mainline narrowbody rates. Way below. E95 should pay with C100 and 717. Not even close.
Credit per day: ours will now average 5ish. SW historically averages more than that.
I guess we will see though...
Now try that on Southwest.com
If the full language TA changes that, I'll eat a Delta pilots hat.
Pay and days off are a function of pay rate x credit hours per day.
Pay rate: starts roughly 3% below SW captain rates. FO rates are even worse. Gap widens from that as our 2% raise is less than SW COLA.
Then there is the 25% of our pilots who fly the E90. Way below small mainline narrowbody rates. Way below. E95 should pay with C100 and 717. Not even close.
Credit per day: ours will now average 5ish. SW historically averages more than that.
I guess we will see though...
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