AIP.
05-21-2018 | 04:05 PM
#341
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And it's never go in with a sicilian when death is on the line!!
so are we all poisoned? or has our years of poison built up an immunity to death?
05-21-2018 | 06:00 PM
#343
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Joined: May 2013
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Is it the contract we deserve? I dont know, but it is a massive step forward for my QOL and most guys here.
Id like better numbers and some things are hard to swallow but do you actually think if we vote NO that the payoff will be bigger? Maybe Navy... I want scope and work rules NOW and Im not sure sending this back for a bigger bonus is worth the risk.
How about we ALL read the thing instead of guessing and judge the TA as a whole. Does that sound possible? Vote reality brotha.
05-21-2018 | 06:50 PM
#344
On Reserve
Joined: Feb 2014
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I dont have to prove anything Navy. I just have to vote what I like or against what I dont. Same as you.
Is it the contract we deserve? I dont know, but it is a massive step forward for my QOL and most guys here.
Id like better numbers and some things are hard to swallow but do you actually think if we vote NO that the payoff will be bigger? Maybe Navy... I want scope and work rules NOW and Im not sure sending this back for a bigger bonus is worth the risk.
How about we ALL read the thing instead of guessing and judge the TA as a whole. Does that sound possible? Vote reality brotha.
Is it the contract we deserve? I dont know, but it is a massive step forward for my QOL and most guys here.
Id like better numbers and some things are hard to swallow but do you actually think if we vote NO that the payoff will be bigger? Maybe Navy... I want scope and work rules NOW and Im not sure sending this back for a bigger bonus is worth the risk.
How about we ALL read the thing instead of guessing and judge the TA as a whole. Does that sound possible? Vote reality brotha.
As far as risking sending this thing back? Not much risk being this is Jetblue and not Spirit or Fronteir. Wake up guys, JB cares about their image and with the impending Summer shortage coming we are in a great negotiating position.
Worst case we wait and bit more for what we deserve. Its not like anyone is in poverty here and is suffering to that point. Lets think like a CFO/CEO and use our leverage! Dont just settle because your union leaders say so. Their job is to sell you a contract that suits you in the most expeditious way.
05-21-2018 | 08:42 PM
#346
UCH Pilot
Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 776
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From: 787
Vote no all you want. Its going to pass. Rumor here at United is your management found out what our management offered us and wants to hurry up and lock you guys in so that they don’t have to deal with trying to match our $300+/hr Airbus Captains and $200+/hour FOs.
05-21-2018 | 08:54 PM
#347
Line Holder
Joined: Aug 2015
Posts: 285
Likes: 2
I agree we should wait and read the final language. But as a 190 driver and the bullet points we were provided this is a slap in the face. It will be a pay cut for me with no more PTO sell back and if vacation is 1 for 1 a concession for everyone in the sum of 20 hours or so.
As far as risking sending this thing back? Not much risk being this is Jetblue and not Spirit or Fronteir. Wake up guys, JB cares about their image and with the impending Summer shortage coming we are in a great negotiating position.
Worst case we wait and bit more for what we deserve. Its not like anyone is in poverty here and is suffering to that point. Lets think like a CFO/CEO and use our leverage! Dont just settle because your union leaders say so. Their job is to sell you a contract that suits you in the most expeditious way.
As far as risking sending this thing back? Not much risk being this is Jetblue and not Spirit or Fronteir. Wake up guys, JB cares about their image and with the impending Summer shortage coming we are in a great negotiating position.
Worst case we wait and bit more for what we deserve. Its not like anyone is in poverty here and is suffering to that point. Lets think like a CFO/CEO and use our leverage! Dont just settle because your union leaders say so. Their job is to sell you a contract that suits you in the most expeditious way.
05-21-2018 | 09:00 PM
#348
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Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 3,274
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From: 190 captain and “Pro-pilot”
But if you are buying us isn’t that point moot?
05-22-2018 | 04:08 AM
#350
Line Holder
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 56
Likes: 0
I agree we should wait and read the final language. But as a 190 driver and the bullet points we were provided this is a slap in the face. It will be a pay cut for me with no more PTO sell back and if vacation is 1 for 1 a concession for everyone in the sum of 20 hours or so.
As far as risking sending this thing back? Not much risk being this is Jetblue and not Spirit or Fronteir. Wake up guys, JB cares about their image and with the impending Summer shortage coming we are in a great negotiating position.
Worst case we wait and bit more for what we deserve. Its not like anyone is in poverty here and is suffering to that point. Lets think like a CFO/CEO and use our leverage! Dont just settle because your union leaders say so. Their job is to sell you a contract that suits you in the most expeditious way.
As far as risking sending this thing back? Not much risk being this is Jetblue and not Spirit or Fronteir. Wake up guys, JB cares about their image and with the impending Summer shortage coming we are in a great negotiating position.
Worst case we wait and bit more for what we deserve. Its not like anyone is in poverty here and is suffering to that point. Lets think like a CFO/CEO and use our leverage! Dont just settle because your union leaders say so. Their job is to sell you a contract that suits you in the most expeditious way.
THIS 1000x. Wake the frig up guys!! We have got ONE shot.
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