Class Drops
09-12-2019, 05:56 AM
#682
Clear ECAM
Joined APC: Oct 2014
Posts: 886
Originally Posted by Bluedriver
Wow. A whole 10 pilots! 500 here we come!
500+ numbers have been touted for 2020 and forward. Seems unlikely unless new sims come online early in the year.
09-12-2019, 06:10 AM
#683
The REAL Bluedriver
Joined APC: Sep 2011
Position: Airbus Capt
Posts: 6,881
Originally Posted by ClncClarence
The number I always heard for 2019 was 400ish. If current class sizes continue looks like it will be a little short of that number. Still looking at adding 10% to he seniority list this year.
500+ numbers have been touted for 2020 and forward. Seems unlikely unless new sims come online early in the year.
500+ numbers have been touted for 2020 and forward. Seems unlikely unless new sims come online early in the year.
09-12-2019, 06:51 AM
#686
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: B757F CA
Posts: 408
Originally Posted by nuball5
Wow that’s a lot of detail, nice job. The only thing I disagree with is that attrition to the Legacies will increase past 2026, I think it will decrease. You start falling behind the retirement power curve if you don’t start making plans to leave in the next few years...Delta especially who’s been hiring like gangbusters for several years now. American Airlines might be the only place someone in their thirties would see the left seat of a wide-body, but they hire very little off the street.
2026 and beyond is obviously far away, so it’s more of wild guess.
2026 and beyond is obviously far away, so it’s more of wild guess.
Don’t disagree with you, except to say that AA isn’t the only place someone in their 30’s would see left seat of a wide body. At FedEx, the junior widebody CA award is currently 4.5 yrs (MEM A300), and it is falling, as is everything else here (due retirements and growth).
09-12-2019, 07:00 AM
#687
The REAL Bluedriver
Joined APC: Sep 2011
Position: Airbus Capt
Posts: 6,881
Originally Posted by IQuitEagle
Don’t disagree with you, except to say that AA isn’t the only place someone in their 30’s would see left seat of a wide body. At FedEx, the junior widebody CA award is currently 4.5 yrs (MEM A300), and it is falling, as is everything else here (due retirements and growth).
JB just hired 10 pilots though!
09-12-2019, 07:31 AM
#688
Banned
Joined APC: Jun 2019
Posts: 442
I count 11 who started yesterday. 6 E190, 5 A320. One of the E190 gals is hired as an instructor, but should still be on the seniority list. After a couple retirements in the last few days (one 5 years early), and one June hire quitting a few days ago, this class puts 4,005 pilots on the list. So far that's 321 hired this year. The propaganda machine at OSC recently advertised 430 this year, 580 next year, and 3k over the next 5 years. I definitely don't believe the last figure, but I do think 430 is doable this year. I also don't think 580 is out of the question for next year.
As for sims, 2 are coming in April (one 320 and one 220). At least according to the propaganda machine at OSC.
As for sims, 2 are coming in April (one 320 and one 220). At least according to the propaganda machine at OSC.
09-12-2019, 07:50 AM
#689
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2016
Posts: 591
Good news is ALWAYS around the corner at BlueJet.
One problem ... which one? There is an unlimited number of corners (hope) in a city.
Being "hopeful" many will defend as a strength. It is in your personal life with family and friends. However, in certain places, it is is a weakness.
Depressing? Not even close. You just have to understand the opponent and the tools they use so that the group becomes immune.
If you don't understand that then ...
Welcome into the bucket! Keep swimming!
In the meantime, I heard someone just found a newish sim and classes somewhere will be ramping up very soon.
One problem ... which one? There is an unlimited number of corners (hope) in a city.
Being "hopeful" many will defend as a strength. It is in your personal life with family and friends. However, in certain places, it is is a weakness.
Depressing? Not even close. You just have to understand the opponent and the tools they use so that the group becomes immune.
If you don't understand that then ...
Welcome into the bucket! Keep swimming!
In the meantime, I heard someone just found a newish sim and classes somewhere will be ramping up very soon.
09-12-2019, 07:59 AM
#690
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2005
Posts: 2,512
Damn I like to complain with the best of you but we are gonna hit 400+ this year.
Over 10% growth on the list and we only took a few airplanes....
Not seeing the downside on this one
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Over 10% growth on the list and we only took a few airplanes....
Not seeing the downside on this one
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