jetBlue rape lawsuit, filed 3/18/19
03-22-2019, 10:01 AM
#61
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Originally Posted by Busdriver4369
Silly me, I misread. He only "assaulted and battered Plaintiff DOE # 2 and drugged her, with the intent of sexually assaulting and raping her" but later left. My bad!
I’ll just paint a picture for you. 3 FAs allegedly get drugged and raped. They wake up on time, hit the crew van, go do all their preflight stuff, and think they are good to work the flight after being that out of it from these date rape drugs. Then they decide to go get checked out only after they get off work instead of right after it happened.
How about this scenario: they got in trouble for being hungover/drunk while working a flight they shouldn’t have been working, and out of self-preservation came up with a new version of how the events unfolded. Is that possible? Or should we crucify the pilots on the internet and in the media based on some unsubstantiated lawsuit before any facts have come out?
There’s a reason there are no criminal charges. There’s a reason the pilots got investigated and cleared by a company that is very HR and lawyer driven, yet the “victims” got caught up in lies. Were any date rape drugs found in their system? A civil suit seeking only monetary compensation needing 51% of the jurors in a #MeToo era....this is a money grab for at least one unemployed former FA who got caught making bad choices and lying about it.
03-22-2019, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by BeatNavy
Hope you follow up with your post when the facts come out. I’ll give you a hint. This is a civil suit. Not a criminal suit. No criminal charges were filed. An investigation already happened. And at least one of the FAs were fired for getting caught in lies about it.
I’ll just paint a picture for you. 3 FAs allegedly get drugged and raped. They wake up on time, hit the crew van, go do all their preflight stuff, and think they are good to work the flight after being that out of it from these date rape drugs. Then they decide to go get checked out only after they get off work instead of right after it happened.
How about this scenario: they got in trouble for being hungover/drunk while working a flight they shouldn’t have been working, and out of self-preservation came up with a new version of how the events unfolded. Is that possible? Or should we crucify the pilots on the internet and in the media based on some unsubstantiated lawsuit before any facts have come out?
There’s a reason there are no criminal charges. There’s a reason the pilots got investigated and cleared by a company that is very HR and lawyer driven, yet the “victims” got caught up in lies. Were any date rape drugs found in their system? A civil suit seeking only monetary compensation needing 51% of the jurors in a #MeToo era....this is a money grab for at least one unemployed former FA who got caught making bad choices and lying about it.
I’ll just paint a picture for you. 3 FAs allegedly get drugged and raped. They wake up on time, hit the crew van, go do all their preflight stuff, and think they are good to work the flight after being that out of it from these date rape drugs. Then they decide to go get checked out only after they get off work instead of right after it happened.
How about this scenario: they got in trouble for being hungover/drunk while working a flight they shouldn’t have been working, and out of self-preservation came up with a new version of how the events unfolded. Is that possible? Or should we crucify the pilots on the internet and in the media based on some unsubstantiated lawsuit before any facts have come out?
There’s a reason there are no criminal charges. There’s a reason the pilots got investigated and cleared by a company that is very HR and lawyer driven, yet the “victims” got caught up in lies. Were any date rape drugs found in their system? A civil suit seeking only monetary compensation needing 51% of the jurors in a #MeToo era....this is a money grab for at least one unemployed former FA who got caught making bad choices and lying about it.
Just think about this, I am going to rufee someone. Why would I pick 3 women who know each other, work with me, and know my name? Wouldn't I just drug a stranger? The whole thing just smells funny to me. Could it be true? Sure. There seems to be zero evidence except these women with monetary motives who were already caught lying about it.
Also, do this CA and FO hang out socially outside of work? If not what are the odds the CA was involved even IF it were true. If the FAs get caught lying I would be suing them for defamation.
03-22-2019, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by BeatNavy
Hope you follow up with your post when the facts come out. I’ll give you a hint. This is a civil suit. Not a criminal suit. No criminal charges were filed. An investigation already happened. And at least one of the FAs were fired for getting caught in lies about it.
I’ll just paint a picture for you. 3 FAs allegedly get drugged and raped. They wake up on time, hit the crew van, go do all their preflight stuff, and think they are good to work the flight after being that out of it from these date rape drugs. Then they decide to go get checked out only after they get off work instead of right after it happened.
How about this scenario: they got in trouble for being hungover/drunk while working a flight they shouldn’t have been working, and out of self-preservation came up with a new version of how the events unfolded. Is that possible? Or should we crucify the pilots on the internet and in the media based on some unsubstantiated lawsuit before any facts have come out?
There’s a reason there are no criminal charges. There’s a reason the pilots got investigated and cleared by a company that is very HR and lawyer driven, yet the “victims” got caught up in lies. Were any date rape drugs found in their system? A civil suit seeking only monetary compensation needing 51% of the jurors in a #MeToo era....this is a money grab for at least one unemployed former FA who got caught making bad choices and lying about it.
I’ll just paint a picture for you. 3 FAs allegedly get drugged and raped. They wake up on time, hit the crew van, go do all their preflight stuff, and think they are good to work the flight after being that out of it from these date rape drugs. Then they decide to go get checked out only after they get off work instead of right after it happened.
How about this scenario: they got in trouble for being hungover/drunk while working a flight they shouldn’t have been working, and out of self-preservation came up with a new version of how the events unfolded. Is that possible? Or should we crucify the pilots on the internet and in the media based on some unsubstantiated lawsuit before any facts have come out?
There’s a reason there are no criminal charges. There’s a reason the pilots got investigated and cleared by a company that is very HR and lawyer driven, yet the “victims” got caught up in lies. Were any date rape drugs found in their system? A civil suit seeking only monetary compensation needing 51% of the jurors in a #MeToo era....this is a money grab for at least one unemployed former FA who got caught making bad choices and lying about it.
03-22-2019, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Busdriver4369
Silly me, I misread. He only "assaulted and battered Plaintiff DOE # 2 and drugged her, with the intent of sexually assaulting and raping her" but later left. My bad!
Does it make sense for the FAs to have been allegedly drugged and raped, then they go to work the next day as if nothing happened, on the same plane with the same alleged rapists?
NO. No way in hell, in fact.
They would have called the company, refused to fly with the SOBs who did this to them, and it would have created quite the scene overall, with the pilots being pulled off the flight and investigated.
But instead, they worked the flight, and told someone about it later? Does this pass the common sense test with you in any way?
03-22-2019, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by HighFlight
Not sure how long you’ve been in aviation (or life, for that matter), but...
Does it make sense for the FAs to have been allegedly drugged and raped, then they go to work the next day as if nothing happened, on the same plane with the same alleged rapists?
NO. No way in hell, in fact.
They would have called the company, refused to fly with the SOBs who did this to them, and it would have created quite the scene overall, with the pilots being pulled off the flight and investigated.
But instead, they worked the flight, and told someone about it later? Does this pass the common sense test with you in any way?
Does it make sense for the FAs to have been allegedly drugged and raped, then they go to work the next day as if nothing happened, on the same plane with the same alleged rapists?
NO. No way in hell, in fact.
They would have called the company, refused to fly with the SOBs who did this to them, and it would have created quite the scene overall, with the pilots being pulled off the flight and investigated.
But instead, they worked the flight, and told someone about it later? Does this pass the common sense test with you in any way?
03-22-2019, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by b82rez
What makes you think they were working together?
Either way, would YOU get on a plane and just work after being “raped”? I know i wouldn’t. I also would not have waited until arriving back home to tell someone about it.
03-22-2019, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by HighFlight
Not sure how long you’ve been in aviation (or life, for that matter), but...
Does it make sense for the FAs to have been allegedly drugged and raped, then they go to work the next day as if nothing happened, on the same plane with the same alleged rapists?
NO. No way in hell, in fact.
They would have called the company, refused to fly with the SOBs who did this to them, and it would have created quite the scene overall, with the pilots being pulled off the flight and investigated.
But instead, they worked the flight, and told someone about it later? Does this pass the common sense test with you in any way?
Does it make sense for the FAs to have been allegedly drugged and raped, then they go to work the next day as if nothing happened, on the same plane with the same alleged rapists?
NO. No way in hell, in fact.
They would have called the company, refused to fly with the SOBs who did this to them, and it would have created quite the scene overall, with the pilots being pulled off the flight and investigated.
But instead, they worked the flight, and told someone about it later? Does this pass the common sense test with you in any way?
But please, do go on telling rape victims how they should act with common sense when they're raped, common sense being it fits with your iron clad opinion of the way a text book rape happens and how the victim should react properly.
03-22-2019, 03:28 PM
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Sorry for my previous thread drift. Background - masters in psych and I did some of my undergrad and some grad hours of my practicum hours working in sex therapy. No joke. Spent time in prisons, with sex offenders, pedophiles, swingers, fetishish obsessed, self mutilators, and the like. Buy me a beer on the overnight and I’ll tell you some stories. Some things don’t pass the muster. STD but only passed to one victim? HPV is a virus. Most certainly transmitted with contact. I also had to attend court and depositions. This doesn’t fit the smell test with me. WTF is a pilot doing with a psych background? I got my CFII and ATP before going to college so at age 23 I went into a PSY program and flight instructed my way through school. A family member of mine was a victim of sexual assault. Not denying the alleged victim here but it doesn't fit the profile.
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