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11-03-2019 | 06:00 AM

#71

nuball5

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Originally Posted by Flyby1206

You get what you negotiate, and live with what you tolerate.

Well those pairings that finish just shy of 1am go pretty senior, so I’m not sure what P3 is talking about. Yep we negotiated an additional ADG past 1am if that’s what you’re talking about.

11-03-2019 | 06:19 AM

#72

Flyby1206

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Originally Posted by nuball5

Well those pairings that finish just shy of 1am go pretty senior, so I’m not sure what P3 is talking about. Yep we negotiated an additional ADG past 1am if that’s what you’re talking about.

I’m just saying if you’re tired, call FTG. It isn’t a perfect solution but when faced with barely legal trips that squeak under the CBA restrictions and you get tired as a result of it then call FTG and fill out a report. Majority of the time the review board understands the problem and it winds up being a systemic issue anyways.

Yes, in an ideal world our CBA would only permit us to work Tuesdays between 10am and 3pm but that’s not the reality. We have to take it upon ourselves to create a tolerable schedule for each of us.

11-03-2019 | 12:58 PM

#73

WHACKMASTER

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Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand

Contract
Section 1.E
Merger and Successorship Protections

Everyone should read it...

Bottom line, unless we become wildly unprofitable and the board can no longer purchase back their stocks at a billion dollar rate every year or two... we should all be employed with a fair and equitable(cough) SLI, that falls within the ALPA merger policy or the confines of Allegheny-Mohawk and McCaskill-Bond. Which ensures that everyone on both sides will be equally irritated, p!ssed off, defrauded of QOL due to the other pilots on the other side of the fence.
At least for two years. Then the furloughs start.

Don’t do like the last airline’s pilots did.....believe their threats on non-integration. Take it to arbitration if a buyout happens and call their bluff.

11-03-2019 | 01:00 PM

#74

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Originally Posted by SaintNick

Purchase or air Tran was going out of business I think. Sorta forced air tran pilots hands on accepting their almost staple.

Bologna. AirTran had a really bad year in 2008 with the high fuel prices. Date of merger announcement was Sept. 2010 by which time we were back to doing fairly well.

11-03-2019 | 06:32 PM

#75

P-3Bubba

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What do you know? More staffing problems. More RSA for more BOS 190 CA and MCO CA. But, reduce the seats by 20+. More suck.

-Bubs

11-03-2019 | 07:25 PM

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360KIAS

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Originally Posted by P-3Bubba

This is how we suck too. The CBA opened the door for 190 pairings that are utterly exhausting. Clock swaps. 4 legs into 0058. (Not redeye) they always pay min guarantee.

-Bubs

The difference being, he wasn't saying it sucked.

11-03-2019 | 07:34 PM

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nuball5

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Originally Posted by P-3Bubba

What do you know? More staffing problems. More RSA for more BOS 190 CA and MCO CA. But, reduce the seats by 20+. More suck.

-Bubs

Man you’re angry. RSA’s or VDA’s are in the CBA just like Green Slips are in Delta’s contract. You don’t think someone at Delta will get a Green Slip tomorrow? Every airline has bases that are more short-staffed than others. I know FO’s here at Jetblue on reserve who haven’t flown in ages.

11-04-2019 | 04:10 AM

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IrishNJ

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Originally Posted by nuball5

Exactly. Every airline out there offers premium pay to incentivize more flying. Yet at JB, you constantly hear that somehow Its a problem that we have VDA/RSA. .... it’s a normal contractually approved process and it gets pilots, that want it, more pay.

United guys are getting premium pay all the time too.

11-04-2019 | 06:18 AM

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True, but don't you think it's shocking how many RSAs there are midweek, clear skies, and during the 'slow part' of the month? I think it's more of a reflection of the lack of planning by BJ * rather then the merits of a RSA?

When BJ controls the staffing, rather than a formula bound by a contract, Bubs has it correct...more suck.

*unless there is a merger coming

11-04-2019 | 06:22 AM

#80

Bluedriver

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Originally Posted by Rabid Seagull

True, but don't you think it's shocking how many RSAs there are midweek, clear skies, and during the 'slow part' of the month? I think it's more of a reflection of the lack of planning by BJ rather then the merits of a RSA?

When BJ controls the staffing, rather than a formula bound by a contract, Bubs has it correct...more suck.

And... With staffing reductions coming in those same RSA seats.

Very JB.

But... We're just like Delta. Except everything.