Any practical examples of McCaskill-Bond?
09-01-2022 | 07:24 PM
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I think you are probably right, a mixture of DOH and relative seniority, and I doubt that any but a handful will wind up more than 4 or 5% from where they were before SLI in their original company but when you put your fate in the hands of a mediator, there is no telling what can happen. Just ask the old timers at Alaska:
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09-02-2022 | 04:30 AM
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So, not complaining, just saying.... Almost 10 years at NK. 19%RS. If we go straight DOH I think I will be around 38%RS, At 50/50 I will be around 30%RS. So definitely more than 5%. And I would go from bidding 35% as captain in base to lower than 80% and on reserve, because of the addition of the A220. Yeah, I could bid those, but I would have to commute to the east coast. Also, I do realize that this is a forward looking statement, and there is no guarantee any of this will happen. Just being cautiously pessimistic.
Just curious on your methodology or thinking on that issue.
09-02-2022 | 07:52 AM
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09-02-2022 | 04:57 PM
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We are going from 2 groups to 4 groups for the NK joiners. I assume the seniority order will be 320CA, 220CA, 320FO, 220FO. Every 220CA directly cuts into the RS of any 320CA.
09-02-2022 | 05:58 PM
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So, not complaining, just saying.... Almost 10 years at NK. 19%RS. If we go straight DOH I think I will be around 38%RS, At 50/50 I will be around 30%RS. So definitely more than 5%. And I would go from bidding 35% as captain in base to lower than 80% and on reserve, because of the addition of the A220. Yeah, I could bid those, but I would have to commute to the east coast. Also, I do realize that this is a forward looking statement, and there is no guarantee any of this will happen. Just being cautiously pessimistic.
09-02-2022 | 06:12 PM
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So, not complaining, just saying.... Almost 10 years at NK. 19%RS. If we go straight DOH I think I will be around 38%RS, At 50/50 I will be around 30%RS. So definitely more than 5%. And I would go from bidding 35% as captain in base to lower than 80% and on reserve, because of the addition of the A220. Yeah, I could bid those, but I would have to commute to the east coast. Also, I do realize that this is a forward looking statement, and there is no guarantee any of this will happen. Just being cautiously pessimistic.
Pay rates on A220 vs A320 is very close and not remotely similar to widebody vs narrowbody pay at legacies. You’re also assuming everyone other than you will choose to commute to the A220 on the east coast for better seniority. If you’re not willing to do it, chances are others won’t either, not that it would offer much different seniority anyway.
Its good to be cautiously pessimistic, but voicing it can cause a B1tchf3st pretty fast
09-02-2022 | 07:50 PM
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Thank Joseph I’ve been through a merger and can swipe past these incorrect assumptions on the ISL
Spirit is the junior
JBlu is the senior
Spirit will lose relative seniority
JBLU will lose longevity.
Both sides will complain about getting screwed
Personally, looking forward to the new airline and scoring a top end JCBA
Best advice to give to guys on their first merger; it will be ok, breathe.
Spirit is the junior
JBlu is the senior
Spirit will lose relative seniority
JBLU will lose longevity.
Both sides will complain about getting screwed
Personally, looking forward to the new airline and scoring a top end JCBA
Best advice to give to guys on their first merger; it will be ok, breathe.
09-02-2022 | 07:58 PM
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With AA/US merger, everything was under consideration. You’re lucky to have no furloughees, but the 3 fleets at JetBlue could cause some unexpected “stove piping”.
With arbitration each side will pitch their list (with reasoning) and the arbitrator will create a compromise list after analyzing the argument.
With arbitration each side will pitch their list (with reasoning) and the arbitrator will create a compromise list after analyzing the argument.
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