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Old 12-08-2015 | 04:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Southerner
Man I hope the pace stays swift. Think it's possible to get a TA in '16? The optimistic side of me thinks...maybe.
I was fairly optimistic until recently... gloves are coming off and I predict the hard ball games to start.

The jan. schedule run will be the last run that the union will be allowed to supervise/vet. The company pulled the plug starting first of the year.

can't wait for the feb pairings!!

it'll get worse before it improves.
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Old 12-08-2015 | 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand
I was fairly optimistic until recently... gloves are coming off and I predict the hard ball games to start.

The jan. schedule run will be the last run that the union will be allowed to supervise/vet. The company pulled the plug starting first of the year.
Ok, so someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the company supposed to maintain status quo while in negotiations, and wouldn't this be a violation of that?
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Old 12-08-2015 | 07:30 AM
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I believe...(I've been wrong once)

The only thing that status quo applies to are things signed for in the PEA. Like, they can't just change the pay rates... but they can change the FSM all day because the PEA says Per the FSM. Not as it was, but as it is written... today via the email you just got.
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Old 12-08-2015 | 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand
Not as it was, but as it is written... today via the email you just got.

No JetBlue company email for me I'm afraid, but it is a career goal.


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Old 12-08-2015 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand
I believe...(I've been wrong once)

The only thing that status quo applies to are things signed for in the PEA. Like, they can't just change the pay rates... but they can change the FSM all day because the PEA says Per the FSM. Not as it was, but as it is written... today via the email you just got.
Not entirely accurate. Status quo is status quo across the board. If there were any drastic changes in the FSM it would absolutely be a status quo violation. Just as if we were a company that just voted in a union whose pilots never signed anything.

Voting in the union basically made the FSM part of the PEA if you want to think of it like that. They can't change it any easier than they can change the PEA.

Now it would have to be pretty big change for ALPA to complain to the NLRB because I believe it's a long process. But it's a long process for the company to justify it as well and the lost goodwill is priceless to both sides.
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Old 12-08-2015 | 10:37 AM
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Well. ... Damn that's twice now
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Old 12-08-2015 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor Vector
The recruiter I talked to said 3,000 applicants. Almost the same number as the number of line pilots, but a long way from 25,000.
I had that info from a recruiter as well.. That is the grand total
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Old 12-08-2015 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand
I was fairly optimistic until recently... gloves are coming off and I predict the hard ball games to start.

The jan. schedule run will be the last run that the union will be allowed to supervise/vet. The company pulled the plug starting first of the year.

can't wait for the feb pairings!!

it'll get worse before it improves.
These are BAD news! Are we sure? Why we did not get an email from the union?
Did they provide any justification for this? It's a low blow
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Old 12-08-2015 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand
I believe...(I've been wrong once)

The only thing that status quo applies to are things signed for in the PEA. Like, they can't just change the pay rates... but they can change the FSM all day because the PEA says Per the FSM. Not as it was, but as it is written... today via the email you just got.
Which email? I didn't get anything on that today
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Old 12-08-2015 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Chrisx2
Which email? I didn't get anything on that today
I believe CaptCool was speaking hypothetically...
And may be you are kidding
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