Climbto450

I would agree with you on the information that they have provided. However, some of these individuals are doing this for the power grab opportunities that the union will provide. A couple of them are genuine the rest are in it for themselves and will sell us down the road for there own gain in a heart beat. I am just saying thanks for the information that they have provided but let the individuals who care about the greater good of the group and the organization take over. Some of these individuals are as bad or worse then upper level management in the art of screwing.
As for the current committee members I think you are way off base. This last round of committee member appointments where all staunch union supporter and a few if them are in the above mentioned group that will sell us down the road for their own gains.

charge4brendan

How many of you folks have received an invite to interview on the 15th? Anyone for the 21st yet?

WARich

A friend of mine has one on the 15th.

402DRVR

Calls went out yesterday for 2/6 according to a friend.

benzoate

PVC = Pilot Values Committee.
Essentially they are an elected group of pilots who reviews pilot issues and makes recommendations based on pilot input. Remember the student council in High School? The airline designed the committee to give pilots a "say".

Silo system = allows particular voting blocks to elect a pilot from their seniority range. Jetblue has 2600 pilots in 7 seniority blocks. Your block votes for your candidate. Fedex has a similar union based system.

DR = Direct Relationship. This is a Jetblue coined phrase which they claim provides you the option to speak with your crew leader or above if you have an issue. Jetblue also claimed with the PEA you have the option to negotiate individually your PEA. For the record several pilots have tried this option. After repeated phone calls and emails to their crew leader several were disciplined.

PEA = Pilot Employment Agreement. This is your individually signed employment agreement between you and the airline. You are an individual employee and not subject to collective bargaining or grievances.

benzoate

I hate to disagree with you but 5 of the 7 silo representatives I know personally. None are out for a power grab because, in reality, there is no power to be had. They get no benefit from the PVC. Constant phone calls and emails, constant employment threats from management, little or no progress and spending much of their time in JFK dealing with Skinner. These pilots are all senior enough to hold decent lines at their respective bases. The one hold over from the previous PVC you could make that argument but that SOB is so greedy the pilot has actually become useful.

You are correct in the committee comment. My apologies. The PVC vetted the majority of candidates to ensure PRO-PILOT(not pro-union) majorities are represented. This is a large reason the pilots have received the truth and facts from committees. We must all keep in mind that each of these committees is truly powerless.

Interestingly FedEx management set up a similar committee structure for their pilot group. Ultimately they saw the value of unionization.

Flyby1206

That guy was an outlier and you know it. You read the pages of posts on BP denouncing him for saying the 190s were overpaid.

benzoate

Joe I would suggest you look back at what this airline and its culture paid 190 pilots when the aircraft came on property. Those of us who have been here awhile fought long and hard to make sure 190 pilots got to the point where they are now.

That knucklehead on the COO call is certainly an outlier.

Climbto450

Okay fair enough. We will have to disagree on their motivations as we have different perspectives and experiences with these individuals on this PVC as mine have not been the same as yours. If you can't see the power grab that will happen once we unionize then once again different perspectives.
As for the committee members these nominees where 100% politcal appointees and most of those last individuals where put on these committees because of their past with either membership of or support of the PVC not because they have a valid to good understanding of the topics they will be handling. The hotel committee nominee hasn't done an overnight in over 2 years other then training and PVC issues. The only thing that makes him qualified for that position is his support of the PVC not anything else. I can go on about the other ones but I think you get my perspective.
As for the the FEDEX issue I completly agree with you on the merrits of unionizing.

benzoate

I can give someone a pass using your hotel member as an example if they are willing to look at the problem and fight for the pilot group. With the previous PVC and their appointees many of them knew the issues but were unwilling to support pilot group wants or needs. Trust me, I know where you are coming from but for me being pro-pilot can trump a certain amount of experience issues.
The PVC wanted pilots who would tell the pilot group the truth. The previous administration simply wasn't willing to ruffle any feathers hence why many of them are on special project status, in management roles or even CP's.

Also, check your emails as the shark posters are coming soon.