The recent system bid is done so these are more or less for the new hire's taking at least for a few months. When you get to OSC, they are going to give your class a list of available spots . It won't be exactly what you see there but it will mirror it fairly closely depending on what is needed most importantly at the time and what they have as far as training availability.

Right now you can be pretty safe planning that both planes will be available and your choices will be JFK or BOS. If your at the senior end of your class, you will most likely have whatever you want. If you want to swap in two years, you can bid over on whatever system bid that takes effect by your two years. They are quarterly and take effect 6 months later. So if you are 190 and want Bus, and you are two years in December for example....you can bid over on the JUN bid.

 

Awesome, thanks for the breakdown. I've been leaning pretty heavily toward the 190, but all of those vacancies for JFK 320 make it look like a new-hire bidding that next week might see some pretty good progression, in the short term at least. I guess the quarterly movement of senior 190 FOs bidding over might negate that in the long term though.

 

I would advice not bidding the E190 at this stage, the majority of new hires this years (Prob 75-80%) went to the E190 and I think they are slowly getting caught up filling those empty seats left by the folks that transitioned to the Airbus. JFK E190 base will continue to shrink, a good amount of people always bid out to BOS on every bid. If you want or do get the E190 I would go to BOS.

I think new hire classes will start to see more Airbus slots in the coming months, with the current vacancies and the fact we have 15 new Airbus planes coming next year, makes me think the Bus/E190 ratio per class will switch again. Everything is so cyclical.

 

How many 190-->320 transitions on the last system bid?

This game is always a crap shoot. It's just like upgrades. LOL, todays 3 month RSV is tomorrows 12month stagnation.

 

Not very many. I think I counted 10 or so 190 FO to 320 FO transitions

 

320 might be the ticket this year!

 

Starting MCO-LAX-MCO on the A320 on Jan 5th.

Depart MCO 7:05pm
Arrive LAX 9:39pm

Depart LAX 10:30pm
Arrive MCO 6:10am

 

A little over three years at JetBlue. In the industry for about 16. I'm not naive to the wrong they are doing. I'm not saying don't be ready, believe me after five furloughs I have my strike fund/furlough fund/ whatever the F happens next fund ready, all I am saying is let's please keep work the relatively happy place it is and not blow this out of proportion. Is it irritating? Yes. Is it wrong the way they did it? Yes. Should you have expected anything different? Of course not, as past performance is definitely indicative of future returns with any management.

I'm just saying that planning for a strike next year seems pretty rash. Maybe I'm wrong.

 

Their leverage is DELAY (sanctioned by the RLA), our leverage is a STRIKE. It is the only answer when the company decides to say either NO or nothing at all. Should we take NO as an answer for the next 2-3 years (with subsequent bottom of the industry pay, benefits, and rules), then Strike?

I think next year is plenty of time for the company to do the right thing and keep this a "happy place".

 

I'll steal a line from my man Snoop.

Getting this contract done is nothing more than a math problem. Nothing more. They have the formula already it's really just plugging in the numbers. Everything else is spin stall delay.