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07-20-2022, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by AYLflyer
I've gotten texts from a bunch of people so far going "MCO 190 is closing! Can you believe it!?"
Yes, I can. That's the most unsurprising news I'd expect from the company at the moment. A dying fleet with a ballpark retirement date of 3-5 more years, and the smallest base we have is 190 MCO. So no, not shocked at all.
Yes, I can. That's the most unsurprising news I'd expect from the company at the moment. A dying fleet with a ballpark retirement date of 3-5 more years, and the smallest base we have is 190 MCO. So no, not shocked at all.
07-20-2022, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by nuball5
Was Frontier digging under the couch cushions for Spirit when they closed O’Hare?
07-20-2022, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by emersonbiguns
Nope, that was BB being a vindictive douche. Prolly ought to understand F9 isn't trying to buy NK. Indigo Partners is buying NK.
Ah man….you got me there! What a big difference!
….and no I shouldn’t ought to know, unless INDIGO sweetens there offer at some point. Better?
07-20-2022, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Unablesorry
Does that mean they are retiring the 190 ? Or just moving those to JFK?
https://www.planespotters.net/airline/JetBlue-Airways this shows the parked ones. You can check the tail numbers on flightaware for their last flights. Sounds like there’s an accelerated parking plan for the owned ones, and the leased ones will be returned on schedule with 6 going back next year, the bulk of the rest of the 30 in 24/25, and the last one Q1 2026. I’d bet most won’t be flying by 2025 (speculation on my part). By the end of 2024, there will be 67 220s on property. I do wonder what will fly the shuttle stuff though. The 220 isn’t all that great for 30 minute flights. Spirit’s 319s maybe? Envoy or republic 175s is probably the most likely when the shortage stabilizes if the NEA is still in place.
07-20-2022, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by BeatNavy
They’ve publicly been saying they are retiring it for years now. 6 are already parked. Block hours are down significantly already over the last several months, despite it being the busy summer season. 25 people holding JFK/BOS CA awards had their awards canceled.
https://www.planespotters.net/airline/JetBlue-Airways this shows the parked ones. You can check the tail numbers on flightaware for their last flights. Sounds like there’s an accelerated parking plan for the owned ones, and the leased ones will be returned on schedule with 6 going back next year, the bulk of the rest of the 30 in 24/25, and the last one Q1 2026. I’d bet most won’t be flying by 2025 (speculation on my part). By the end of 2024, there will be 67 220s on property. I do wonder what will fly the shuttle stuff though. The 220 isn’t all that great for 30 minute flights. Spirit’s 319s maybe? Envoy or republic 175s is probably the most likely when the shortage stabilizes if the NEA is still in place.
https://www.planespotters.net/airline/JetBlue-Airways this shows the parked ones. You can check the tail numbers on flightaware for their last flights. Sounds like there’s an accelerated parking plan for the owned ones, and the leased ones will be returned on schedule with 6 going back next year, the bulk of the rest of the 30 in 24/25, and the last one Q1 2026. I’d bet most won’t be flying by 2025 (speculation on my part). By the end of 2024, there will be 67 220s on property. I do wonder what will fly the shuttle stuff though. The 220 isn’t all that great for 30 minute flights. Spirit’s 319s maybe? Envoy or republic 175s is probably the most likely when the shortage stabilizes if the NEA is still in place.
I think you’ll see them start sprinkling the A220 on some shuttle type flying. It has periodically flown between JFK and BOS, so some of the other city pairs like that are just a natural extension.
To be honest, I’m not sure what the A220 will do with 67 jets if it doesn’t start taking over some 190 type flying. With one 11 airframes, it does most of the thin transcons out of BOS as well as some of the medium-length routes from there like Texas, MKE and MCI.
07-21-2022, 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by nuball5
I think you’ll see them start sprinkling the A220 on some shuttle type flying. It has periodically flown between JFK and BOS, so some of the other city pairs like that are just a natural extension.
To be honest, I’m not sure what the A220 will do with 67 jets if it doesn’t start taking over some 190 type flying. With one 11 airframes, it does most of the thin transcons out of BOS as well as some of the medium-length routes from there like Texas, MKE and MCI.
To be honest, I’m not sure what the A220 will do with 67 jets if it doesn’t start taking over some 190 type flying. With one 11 airframes, it does most of the thin transcons out of BOS as well as some of the medium-length routes from there like Texas, MKE and MCI.
07-21-2022, 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by dontsurf
can the 220 land in Nantucket and key west? or more specifically, can it take off from key west and fly to Boston? I know we do that stuff in the 190. I do not know if the 220 can do it.
It can land and takeoff in MVY, but there is a ramp weight limit that I think the -300 exceeds, and the -100 doesn’t, I think.
07-21-2022, 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by dontsurf
can the 220 land in Nantucket and key west? or more specifically, can it take off from key west and fly to Boston? I know we do that stuff in the 190. I do not know if the 220 can do it.
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