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it can land on 32 in Boston, I was deadheading on one when the crew landed. Wasn’t full but it was at least 110 on board maybe more. Didn’t seem difficult or too aggressive stopping and they turned off at J1, that’s about 4100 feet, so I’d imagine ACK at over 6k should be no issue and EYW is almost the same length. Though T/O in EYW might be another story if carrying fuel for an alternate. The issue I could see in the cape islands are the taxiways, the 190 barely fits on some of them and the engines are over the grass, I’d imagine the gear track width of the 220 is wider.
I heard the issue with ACK and MVY (and maybe also HYA?) is the physical amount of space on the ramp; the wingspan is too big to get behind the terminal in ACK, and in MVY the tail would be too close to the taxiway. The 220 is already doing EYW to BOS, but it's usually capped around 100 passengers and still has planned tech stops all the time.
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Something about the airflow causing engine compressor stalls when pushing the power up above 60% N1. Seems to not do it if you are moving. The engine is a princess. 18 kt tailwind limit for start. If it's sitting at the gate with a wind high enough to actually turn the blades there will be an engine fault that MX will need to clear but comes back nearly immediately until positioned into the wind.
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it can land on 32 in Boston which is 5k feet. With the pad off end about another 500 feet is there that the plane can over run the runway onto the pad but it isn’t included in the legal ALD. I was deadheading on one when the crew landed. Wasn’t full but it was at least 110 on board maybe more. Didn’t seem difficult or too aggressive stopping and they turned off at J1, that’s about 4100 feet, so I’d imagine ACK at over 6k should be no issue and EYW is almost the same length. Though T/O in EYW might be another story if carrying fuel for an alternate. The issue I could see in the cape islands are the taxiways, the 190 barely fits on some of them and the engines are over the grass, I’d imagine the gear track width of the 220 is wider.
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Exactly what I said….Runway 32 is 5000 feet long, all of it is available for legal landing distance calculation. Therefore as long as the plane is capable, as in aerodata minimum runway length is less than 5000 feet, you should be able to land and stop in xxx configuration with 15% buffer added on the actual runway surface. It is short by airliner standard but the 190 is completely capable in most cases, and apparently now the 220 is also, to legally use that landing distance.
Theres another piece to it however. If you fk it up, the end of runway 32 seamlessly goes into a parking pad of stressed concrete that will support an airplane, hence being a parking pad. You have an insurance policy of about 600 feet of extra pavement after the end of the runway if you over run it. Tower only opens the runway when there is no aircraft parked there. You don’t want to count on it obviously but it’s there.
look at a google maps image of the runway and you’ll see what I mean.
Theres another piece to it however. If you fk it up, the end of runway 32 seamlessly goes into a parking pad of stressed concrete that will support an airplane, hence being a parking pad. You have an insurance policy of about 600 feet of extra pavement after the end of the runway if you over run it. Tower only opens the runway when there is no aircraft parked there. You don’t want to count on it obviously but it’s there.
look at a google maps image of the runway and you’ll see what I mean.
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