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08-28-2022, 04:19 AM
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A group of accountants you will never meet sitting in an office somewhere crunch numbers and if the cost of training 100 to keep 60 is one dollar less than the projected cost to pay pilots more over the same time period, then yes, it is considered sustainable.
08-28-2022, 05:16 AM
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Probably so....On the one hand you have pilots screaming "if you pay'd us more, those new guys would stay!!" The accountants say, "yeah.....we could pay all of you a lot more and still a sizable % would leave anyway...makes no sense."
08-28-2022, 05:24 AM
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Totally agree, as majority leave for geography and opportunities the WB fleets offer a high percentage of the pilots would leave even if we had industry leading 320 pay rates.
08-28-2022, 05:32 AM
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We talked about virtual basing so we can build pairings out of smaller cities.
08-28-2022, 06:01 AM
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Ok, so knowing that. Why does the company allow for the largest bases to be in “undesirable” cities? Why are the Florida bases so small? Why is LAX so small? No mid west base (Austin was a possibility until we blew it)?
We talked about virtual basing so we can build pairings out of smaller cities.
We talked about virtual basing so we can build pairings out of smaller cities.
How is LAX any different than those other undesirable cities you’re referring to? If anything it’s worse.
The company isn’t going to open a domicile unless it makes business sense. It’s always been an airline that takes people from NY and Boston to Florida at it’s core. They’ll never open another base as a means to try an curb attrition. I’m not even sure that would even solve the attrition issues. Just head over to the Frontier or Spirit forums, who both have Midwest and Florida bases for that answer.
08-28-2022, 06:27 AM
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Ok, so knowing that. Why does the company allow for the largest bases to be in “undesirable” cities? Why are the Florida bases so small? Why is LAX so small? No mid west base (Austin was a possibility until we blew it)?
We talked about virtual basing so we can build pairings out of smaller cities.
We talked about virtual basing so we can build pairings out of smaller cities.
08-28-2022, 07:01 AM
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How is LAX any different than those other undesirable cities you’re referring to? If anything it’s worse.
The company isn’t going to open a domicile unless it makes business sense. It’s always been an airline that takes people from NY and Boston to Florida at it’s core. They’ll never open another base as a means to try an curb attrition. I’m not even sure that would even solve the attrition issues. Just head over to the Frontier or Spirit forums, who both have Midwest and Florida bases for that answer.
The company isn’t going to open a domicile unless it makes business sense. It’s always been an airline that takes people from NY and Boston to Florida at it’s core. They’ll never open another base as a means to try an curb attrition. I’m not even sure that would even solve the attrition issues. Just head over to the Frontier or Spirit forums, who both have Midwest and Florida bases for that answer.
08-28-2022, 07:05 AM
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well it's no secret that JB liked to geographically hire around there base system, and how are you or I to say NY and BOS are undesirable. We have plenty of pilots who stay for the BOS base. As for LAX it has grown tremendously in the past 2 years, yes the pairing stink but upgrade has gone down to around 11years and it's pretty easy for a 1st year bus pilot to bid it as FO. FLL has grown immensely as well, from Captains perspective it appears that they have shrunk the flying out of BOS.
08-28-2022, 07:11 AM
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well it's no secret that JB liked to geographically hire around there base system, and how are you or I to say NY and BOS are undesirable. We have plenty of pilots who stay for the BOS base. As for LAX it has grown tremendously in the past 2 years, yes the pairing stink but upgrade has gone down to around 11years and it's pretty easy for a 1st year bus pilot to bid it as FO. FLL has grown immensely as well, from Captains perspective it appears that they have shrunk the flying out of BOS.
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