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Old 03-04-2017, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by BunkerF16 View Post
I don't think that's what Joe was getting at, ATR.....I think he was just saying that if you're low on the seniority list here, that for your career in general, it might make more sense financially and QOL to go to one of the legacies......I see a lot of the "If you're not happy, leave" posts....I didn't take his as one of those.
Yeah I didn't mean to direct that at him, I just got going on a rant... he's definitely right. Except that probably holds true for at least the bottom 1000 of the list, not just the junior guys. Just look at the Big 3 retirement projections and the fact you can hold left seat at Delta in four months
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Old 03-04-2017, 10:42 AM
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Just came from recurrent. The mgmt debrief I was told, get ready for this. We, JetBlue are in a great position because the legacies could go out of business because they will not be able to hire enough pilots to fill the retirement voids. Yes. Bankrupt. So United & Delta with your awesome CBA's, good luck in a few years
They said this with a straight face?

You know who will help fill the Big 3 retirement voids? JetBlue pilots, as long as we are compensated 30-40% less than them. They better sweeten the pot ASAP.
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Old 03-04-2017, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by atrdriver View Post
They said this with a straight face?

You know who will help fill the Big 3 retirement voids? JetBlue pilots, as long as we are compensated 30-40% less than them. They better sweeten the pot ASAP.
Most likely the asst cp there.
I have no clue what he is talking about.
I think the word delusional is correct.
If anything they could just buy us kill the compition and get a bunch of young pilots. I did ask him if the ELT was worried about all of this and he said they have "mentioned it"

My big worry is they think like he does and if that is the case we will be in a world of hurt.
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Old 03-04-2017, 11:34 AM
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I had a similar recurrent experience, and if that management lunch is designed to convince young/junior pilots to stay we're in serious trouble... Arguing with line pilots telling us that's one way to look at things. It was an imbecilic display of managements ineptitude at seeing the realities of our industry. Eye opener to say the least... Just keep plugging away and update those apps till they give us a reason not to.
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Old 03-04-2017, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by N311JB View Post
Just came from recurrent. The mgmt debrief I was told, get ready for this. We, JetBlue are in a great position because the legacies could go out of business because they will not be able to hire enough pilots to fill the retirement voids. Yes. Bankrupt. So United & Delta with your awesome CBA's, good luck in a few years
How many in class couldn't contain their laughter?

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Old 03-04-2017, 01:43 PM
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The Legacies due to attrition can only train so many with all the training events each retirement triggers. The school houses are only so big......
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Old 03-04-2017, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by hyperboy View Post
The Legacies due to attrition can only train so many with all the training events each retirement triggers. The school houses are only so big......


Omg your him aren't you?

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Old 03-04-2017, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by N311JB View Post
Just came from recurrent. The mgmt debrief I was told, get ready for this. We, JetBlue are in a great position because the legacies could go out of business because they will not be able to hire enough pilots to fill the retirement voids. Yes. Bankrupt. So United & Delta with your awesome CBA's, good luck in a few years
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Old 03-04-2017, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by hyperboy View Post
The Legacies due to attrition can only train so many with all the training events each retirement triggers. The school houses are only so big......
I heard that in initial. Our management seems a lot more concerned about the legacies' future training needs than the legacies themselves do. Perhaps you should write Mr. Parker, Munoz, and Bastian an email giving them a heads up that they will be bankrupt in 5-10 years, and you are concerned about their training events being too difficult to manage. What a joke. Still waiting for you to tell us how things are improving at JetBlue.
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Old 03-04-2017, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by hyperboy View Post
The Legacies due to attrition can only train so many with all the training events each retirement triggers. The school houses are only so big......
Sounds like we found who spoke to that guy's recurrent class

Delta just expanded their training center and I'm pretty certain United planned for increased training when they consolidated with CAL. The Big 3 have plenty of training capacity to shuffle their current pilots and train new hires they poach from industry laggard JetBlue. #keepsgettingbetter
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