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05-14-2018, 06:20 PM
#6292
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Originally Posted by jtrain609
No, that's not fine. What you do is undermine the collective goals of our union by publicly attacking the MEC. We are strongest when we stand united, not when we squabble and negotiate in public. The discord you sow doesn't help us, it hurts our collective cause, which is another reason I think you're a plant from F&H.
There are pathways to let your concern be known within the union, none of which you can follow, because you're not a member.
There are pathways to let your concern be known within the union, none of which you can follow, because you're not a member.
If I weren't a paying union member, I wouldn't care so much about getting results from it. Give your brain a chance.
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05-14-2018, 06:23 PM
#6293
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Originally Posted by jtrain609
Holy crap is sanity finally returning to this forum!?
Isn't insanity when you do the same thing over and over and expect different results?
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05-14-2018, 06:29 PM
#6294
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Originally Posted by feltf4
You must be a joy to come home to every night. Snuggle up with. Have a little pillow talk with.
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05-14-2018, 06:35 PM
#6295
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Originally Posted by feltf4
You’re a tool.
You’re voting no because you may have to clean the cabin one time when you decide to leave your troll cave and go non rev somewhere. You must be a miserable human.
Can you send me a DM so I can put you on my avoid list? Although I have a big hunch on who you maybe with how you attribute everything to “war”.
You’re voting no because you may have to clean the cabin one time when you decide to leave your troll cave and go non rev somewhere. You must be a miserable human.
Can you send me a DM so I can put you on my avoid list? Although I have a big hunch on who you maybe with how you attribute everything to “war”.
A "tool"? hahaha Please tell me you are older than 14 years old. Perhaps you need to go hide in your safe space since you clearly can't handle written words. Act professional.
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05-14-2018, 06:39 PM
#6296
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Originally Posted by ALT SEL ooops
Amen. If they cant give up this dumb and ridiculous policy then they can enjoy sub 50 percent on time performance and an impending summer melt down.
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05-14-2018, 06:45 PM
#6297
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Posts: 1,132
Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand
dude, get past the cleaning, it's not part of the contract. cast your vote now.
focus on something you actually need to. you do not have to clean. this has been addressed so many times. use the words in the pass travel guide to your advantage. just like the fatigue guide, The FOM and other books that guide you through this industry. just do SOP. what they "tell you" may not be what the book says. SOP simple. done. end.
christ all mighty.
focus on something you actually need to. you do not have to clean. this has been addressed so many times. use the words in the pass travel guide to your advantage. just like the fatigue guide, The FOM and other books that guide you through this industry. just do SOP. what they "tell you" may not be what the book says. SOP simple. done. end.
christ all mighty.
Why do you still think you don't have to clean? Yes, there are a few loopholes such as being in the cockpit jumpseat, but if you're going to/from work in the back, you agreed to an online training that is essentially a contract. There is no reason why the contract can't include every little detail. If someone is telling you they can't include such a provision, they are lying. They are hiding behind your ignorance of the process.
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05-14-2018, 06:54 PM
#6298
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Originally Posted by PasserOGas
False choice fallacy. Straw man. Ad hominem. Wow. All in three sentences.
So you are arguing the following:
1. DAL could be forced to clean while non reving in their current contract.
2. That if such a loophole existed, it COULD NOT be closed.
3. If it could be closed that it would take more than one negotiating cycle for it to go away.
Please tell me how little you value yourself again.
So you are arguing the following:
1. DAL could be forced to clean while non reving in their current contract.
2. That if such a loophole existed, it COULD NOT be closed.
3. If it could be closed that it would take more than one negotiating cycle for it to go away.
Please tell me how little you value yourself again.
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05-14-2018, 07:02 PM
#6299
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Posts: 1,132
Originally Posted by Southerner
Personally, I prefer the crossing a few seatbelts to paying money, and here is why. Paying an annual fee gives money directly to the company, and it does nothing to help out any specific person. If I help cross a few seatbelts, it directly makes someone's day easier, and that's more important to me than giving the company money. But that's just my point of view. Some feel the opposite, and both are valid positions. I always found it highly offensive that a regional airline pilot making pennies was forced to PAY for non-rev travel.
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05-14-2018, 07:31 PM
#6300
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Joined APC: Apr 2007
Position: Ending the Backlog one claim at a time
Posts: 486
Huh?
Originally Posted by queue
Why not? Are you a defeatist? Laws can be changed overnight if you want them to. Corporations literally do it daily. We lack the political will as a pilot group because of willful ignorance.
2. Corporations literally do not. They may change policy overnight, but it is not a law.
3. The political will of a pilot group has nothing to do with the RLA, maintaining economic and national security does.
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