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#842
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Joined APC: Mar 2016
Posts: 591
That is the first I've heard of this. Not accusing you of anything, just curious where you "heard" this....straight from his mouth, an ALPA communication, from the guy sitting next to you, a JS, a bich board, urban myth?
I know years and years ago the Sched Comm (project pilots looking for managements approval/promotion) stated that a min day in the optimizer screwed up the commutability of the pairings. That was back when some of the pairings were commutable. Is it possible that myth is still floating around?
BTW there are ways to contractually allow for flexibility to allow both commutability and a min day. One way would be a "cut out". If a pairing started after a certain time and ended before a certain time (i.e 3 day to SDQ) then it might be subject to a different pay scheme. For example if the min day was 5.5 hours then a 3 day "Super Commute" pairing could have a flat and/or min rate of 13 or 14 hours if it complied with the start/end time provisions.
I know years and years ago the Sched Comm (project pilots looking for managements approval/promotion) stated that a min day in the optimizer screwed up the commutability of the pairings. That was back when some of the pairings were commutable. Is it possible that myth is still floating around?
BTW there are ways to contractually allow for flexibility to allow both commutability and a min day. One way would be a "cut out". If a pairing started after a certain time and ended before a certain time (i.e 3 day to SDQ) then it might be subject to a different pay scheme. For example if the min day was 5.5 hours then a 3 day "Super Commute" pairing could have a flat and/or min rate of 13 or 14 hours if it complied with the start/end time provisions.
The 160 hour wonder boy on the PSC used to say a daily min would hurt the pilot group. That was simply code for it would cost the company money.
#843
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Joined APC: Dec 2014
Posts: 155
Holy crap, how do we turn this thing (Whitehammer) off? Maybe we can have a spelling contest? I've been here for 6 months. All of MY CAs have not been amazing guys to fly with, but they have all been in charge, and I have treated them thusly. Somebody said something about "if everybody in the room is an assh**e..." You might want to consider the fact that not a single person is coming to your defense. We use the possessive "my" not as a means of degradation, but as a term of allegiance, loyalty, unity. It says "whatever happens, we are in this together. We are a team." The only accurate thing you have said is "I am wrong." You should have left it at that. Now, did somebody say something about buying me a beer?
#844
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Joined APC: Dec 2014
Posts: 155
Since you haven't been here long it probably hasn't happened, and hopefully it won't. Imagine YOU'RE (is that correct?) at the bar getting your drink from YOUR favorite captain. He introduces you to a group of people. This is MY Fo and these are MY flight attendants. Let's not take this out of perspective. I guess you would have to be there, and you weren't. With your seniority you have probably not had the pleasure of getting to know the horrible 100 yet, just wait.
#845
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Joined APC: Dec 2008
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Posts: 3,150
Since you haven't been here long it probably hasn't happened, and hopefully it won't. Imagine YOU'RE (is that correct?) at the bar getting your drink from YOUR favorite captain. He introduces you to a group of people. This is MY Fo and these are MY flight attendants. Let's not take this out of perspective. I guess you would have to be there, and you weren't. With your seniority you have probably not had the pleasure of getting to know the horrible 100 yet, just wait.
...Even at the bar... You're still my FO
#847
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Joined APC: Mar 2011
Posts: 244
Haha... I fly with the horrible hundred 80+% of the time. First off, they aren't that horrible with of course a couple notable exceptions. Second, they don't do many overnights. Third... Dude, just let it go. If you are like me and really fly with the horrible hundred weekly, then it's time to take the upgrade if you are that burnt out about this meager issue.
#848
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Joined APC: Jan 2011
Posts: 1,122
Haha... I fly with the horrible hundred 80+% of the time. First off, they aren't that horrible with of course a couple notable exceptions. Second, they don't do many overnights. Third... Dude, just let it go. If you are like me and really fly with the horrible hundred weekly, then it's time to take the upgrade if you are that burnt out about this meager issue.
#849
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Joined APC: Jul 2015
Posts: 917
Why we will never go to Europe. Our codeshare partners can do it for us...
https://www.thestreet.com/story/1369...-contract.html
https://www.thestreet.com/story/1369...-contract.html
#850
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Joined APC: Sep 2014
Posts: 1,316
Yea, it would definitely be a big fat NO vote from me. We are not a regional, we shouldn't expect a regional-like contract. Nobody should be trying to compromise on this.
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