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Old 10-27-2016 | 10:33 AM
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You should really take that up with the union or CP who knows what type of records they keep on this. I had a problem with an agent who also said I was threatening him (yeah right) I talked to the union and and they along with the CP worked on it and it was all cleared up. You will find some of these agents have a history of stuff like that.
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Old 10-27-2016 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by pilotpayne
You should really take that up with the union or CP who knows what type of records they keep on this. I had a problem with an agent who also said I was threatening him (yeah right) I talked to the union and and they along with the CP worked on it and it was all cleared up. You will find some of these agents have a history of stuff like that.
Wouldn't surprise me if it was the same agent. Talked to his supervisor, CPO, and filed a PDR all that day. I hope I do hear more about it from the company I'd love to sit down and talk with them more about this guy. He was pretty rude and did not follow the Correct procedures. He also called into question my integrity when he denied my wife was at the gate more than 20 minutes before departure.

That being said everyone involved was receptive to the issue, his supervisor, CPO, and union. I trust it was followed up on that day and we've all moved on
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Old 10-27-2016 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Xtreme87
So instead of blocking flights properly, and not scheduling 35 minute turns, they not make flights depart really early to get a head start? Man the cost savings ideas are getting weirder and weirder.

I love how nobody ever brings up the well being of the crews in the on time calculations. We're just supposed to not eat right? Or run and get food for 4 or 5 people at a time? Never even heard of such a thing at the regionals.
If you're hungry, go out and get food. If you know you have multiple legs, then may I suggest bringing food or buying something before hand. I haven't heard one person complain on the line about this. Be an adult. If it means a delay, so be it.
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Old 10-27-2016 | 02:39 PM
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I witness this problem myself when I see gate agents closing flights early, a lot of times as much as 20-25 mins before scheduled departure.

I wonder what if a jumpseater would show up at the last minute..

But then a lot of pilots would equally share the blame who would like to push early on go home day....

We all, collectively, need to make sure that we are NOT leaving one of us or our families behind. And we need to do it every time.
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Old 10-28-2016 | 06:00 AM
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I think it was said before but bears repeating. At least one pilot should ALWAYS take a little walk up to the gate area to see if anyone is trying to get on. If you're traveling in civvies, make yourself known so we can keep an eye out for you. I've flown with one captain who was willing to leave people behind but other than that person, none have put getting home early over helping out a fellow crew member.
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Old 10-28-2016 | 12:16 PM
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I stepped off the airplane just under 20 minutes prior the other day. The agents eyes almost popped out of her head. She did not say anything to me but it was clear what she was thinking as she looked at the paper in her hand. I just walked up to the gate area. We left 7 minutes early. All was good, and maybe this walk should be on one of our "not so approved flows"
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Old 10-28-2016 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by cmesoar
I stepped off the airplane just under 20 minutes prior the other day. The agents eyes almost popped out of her head. She did not say anything to me but it was clear what she was thinking as she looked at the paper in her hand. I just walked up to the gate area. We left 7 minutes early. All was good, and maybe this walk should be on one of our "not so approved flows"
That's awesome, this shows solidarity.
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Old 10-30-2016 | 11:24 AM
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I can't believe it isn't standard practice to make the walk up to the podium prior to departure. At UAL, an agent would never try to close 20 early and leave non-revs like that(well, not more than once). I'd love to see one try to refuse a jumpseater at 20 prior. Captain determines when the door closes and when we push. Agents have to walk into the cockpit and ask before closing the main cabin door.
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Old 10-30-2016 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by IAHB756
I can't believe it isn't standard practice to make the walk up to the podium prior to departure. At UAL, an agent would never try to close 20 early and leave non-revs like that(well, not more than once). I'd love to see one try to refuse a jumpseater at 20 prior. Captain determines when the door closes and when we push. Agents have to walk into the cockpit and ask before closing the main cabin door.
Here's a guy that see's fit to express his opinion without comprehending the conversation.

Thank you for your input.
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Old 10-30-2016 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by IAHB756
I can't believe it isn't standard practice to make the walk up to the podium prior to departure. At UAL, an agent would never try to close 20 early and leave non-revs like that(well, not more than once). I'd love to see one try to refuse a jumpseater at 20 prior. Captain determines when the door closes and when we push. Agents have to walk into the cockpit and ask before closing the main cabin door.
Agent has to ask CA if they can close at JetBlue as well. I'm sure the agent said everyone was there. But I agree, the walk up has to be done more now. This never used to be a problem until they were incentivized for on time performance.
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