Whale Driver

If your NC/EXCO want to push this they should sign the TA in whole as they want it and send it to 1224. Force the issue.

Screwed

Maxjet,

You need not worry about taking supplies to our troops with a 20 hour duty day.

Atlas does it just fine with a 20 hour day and Evergreen did just fine with an 18 hour duty day.

AND, the whole point of getting a good TA is so that you don't have to worry about working so hard to be able to make a living.

You fly a 747 around the world under sometimes dangerous conditions. The least Connie can do is adequately compensate you, so that you don't have to work like a dog to support your family.

You are a professional pilot doing a dangerous job. You need to be compensated like one.

Code Red

What's this about a TA?

Screwed

Its all just pontification. There is no TA.

catching waves

Really? JH says we should've had a TA to vote on over a month ago. Do you work for K4? What he has told me and many, many others backs up what SN has said. What we've all heard. They have been censored. Silenced because they disagree with dw. dw won't allow us to vote on what was previously agreed too.

So go someplace else to play. You aren't welcome here. Seriously, go play in your sandbox. My k4 brothers are sick and tired of the 1224 peeps dictating our contract. Let us vote yes or no. Let us speak for ourselves. JH, SN, et al, have said the same thing over and over, contrary to what BS you have read on here and what you listened to on that embarrassment of a webinar.

And how dare you disparage the folks that took the time to call in.

I'm utterly convinced you don't work for k4 and only care about what's best for you at another none K4 company. At the expense of the k4 pilot group.

OrionFE

I have been watching this ******* show for a while. I can't believe all the non-k4 people sticking their nose in our business. Yes, I get it, Atlas desperately wants to use us as a pawn for their negotiations....and in the end, they may get a much better contract as they have a bigger pilot group, more revenue, share holders, long term contracts, etc....but, holy *******! This is a K4 issue! Our NC knows exactly what we want! If they have a TA, let them put it out for a vote! It does not apply to DW and his agenda and his groupies! Who in this business ever heard of a competitor stopping a TA of another airline? Let K4 do their business, others stay out! Negotiate your own contract!

727C47

GO K4 !!! I hope you gents and ladies get the improved CBA you so richly deserve, from a proud alumni

HPIC

If you want others to stay out of it, quit posting about it on a public message board. The only reason many of the guys are spewing their rhetoric here is because it's anonymous.

orka

Screwed, I wrote to Dan Wells and never heard back from him

orka

Ridiculous accustations? Sounds like the same guy who called us scumbags