Put the crack pipe down. People telling you there is a pilot shortage are usually trying to sell you their services. This pilot shortage bull crap has been around for all of my career. 25 years with XX airline and its gets worse everyday. We have 1500+ who have been on furlough almost 10 years. I wish a pilot shortage were true more than any of you.

 

Hey 86,

we said there would be a shortage not if it would be a good one. Just like there is a shortage of people willing to pick fruit on a farm(and yes I've done that too). Doesn't mean there will be good jobs, just that there will be jobs. Low paying regional jobs be available shouldn't mean the industry is getting better. As mentioned there are plenty of people on furlough not running back to hop into a regional jet anytime soon.

I just hope people realize a shortage of pilots doesn't mean improvement in working/QOL/pay. Companies goal is to make money not lose it.

 

AA has the most furloughees....from another poster:
"Latest DK estimate has the recalls or F/T's being done with in April 2012."

They have about 1200 furloughees now, and they estimate that all of them will have been offered recall in less than a year...this is because of the developing pilot shortage.

Lowered mins are everywhere, and higher and higher pay is being offered at organizations with contract pilots.

cliff
ANC

 

A pilot shortage will not truly exist (in my opinion) untill mainline companies have to park mainline aircraft due to a lack of trained and qualified crews. This is after all the regionals have already folded because of a lack of pilots, not because the mainline flying is outsourced.

I really don't see this happening.

 

Geez....I'd love to see them try that now and for at least the 2-3 yrs! Not hiring right out of high school; but CFI's out of flight academies and the like hitting around the 750-1500 TT. You talk about causing an upheavel.



atp

 

Hi Rnav,

<I went back and read some of your posts again. I think you and I actually agree. However, I just don't think there is anything to get excited about. I certainly do not think you will see airlines going to high schools to pick out students for training from 0 hours. A squeeze in pilot availablity might do one thing, force airlines to treat pilots like human beings. On second thought, probably not.>

Just look at who puts out stories regarding pilot shortages. Either some idiot at usa today or some guy that wants you to pay him for some kind of fake services.

Shortages at the FBO? Shortages at Eagle? Shortages at Scare You cargo airline? Sure.

The bottom line, if you are truly passionate about flying, go for it. If you are looking for a good career that will pay you for your time and let you off when your 20th wedding anniversary comes up, forget the airlines. They just take all your money, kick you in the gut and then laugh in your face. Facts are facts.

 

Ha ha, I just worked my 20th anniversary, my wife wasn't happy. I should have called in sick.

 

Pretty much... THIS

 

I hear you man. Sorry about that.

 

Single pilot ground controlled airliners flown by (I mean monitored by) a company trained cadet automaton is the future of aviation. Get in line now...

At one time it was unthinkable to fly a transport category plane over the age of 60 and a radio operator, navigator and flight engineer. All gone. The FO is next.

Skyhigh