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Old 10-24-2021, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Violated View Post
Iíve put my name in the hat as an FO at Breeze. If I were to receive an offer what does the upgrade landscape look like? I have *barely* enough qualifying 135 and 121 time to qualify. Has anyone upgraded FO->CA yet? Is there any pressure or JM upgrade expectation?
Yes so far 6 people have and an additional 2 more are in the process. Likely in December/January timeframe additional upgrades will happen to staff the spring expansion. If I had to guess, upgrades at some point early next year will become a steady occurrence.
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Old 10-24-2021, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by chihuahua View Post
That makes sense, I just thought originally the plan was for Breeze to start in 2020 with all A220s, and then the reality of what was going in the world and the fact Airbus can only build A220s so fast caused them to go with the E-Jet and delay their launch for a year. I would think there will be a decent amount of E190s coming available from Jetblue in the coming years, so it would make sense for Neelman to pick those up, especially considering they were his planes to begin with.
originally yes, the plan was A220 from the get go and the Ejets were an interim solution for launching earlier than Airbus could supply A220ísÖ however things changed pretty rapidly and the Ejet economics changed and has become an integral part of our system, so itís a long term fleet.
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Old 10-24-2021, 04:44 PM
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Does the seat lock apply in the event of upgrade, I.E. if you are hired into the E-195 are you only allowed to upgrade into the E-195 and not the A220 during the duration of the seat lock?
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Old 10-24-2021, 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by spottedcow View Post
Does the seat lock apply in the event of upgrade, I.E. if you are hired into the E-195 are you only allowed to upgrade into the E-195 and not the A220 during the duration of the seat lock?
It sounds like it's more of an equipment lock than a seat lock, where you stay on the fleet you were hired for. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Jetblue have a fence between the E190 and A320 fleet for a while at the start as well? Either way, sounds like the E190 and A220 at Breeze are going to be filling somewhat different roles.
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Old 10-25-2021, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by chihuahua View Post
It sounds like it's more of an equipment lock than a seat lock, where you stay on the fleet you were hired for. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Jetblue have a fence between the E190 and A320 fleet for a while at the start as well? Either way, sounds like the E190 and A220 at Breeze are going to be filling somewhat different roles.
I thought someone said a 3 year equipment lock but I could be mistakenÖ. The E190/95 makes sense if you want to fly out-and-backs like Allegiant and sleep in your own bed. Should be very interesting to see how they use the A220 considering itís range flexibility and low break even load factorÖ And dang it do look good in blue:

https://www.ktvn.com/story/44717505/...0-300-aircraft

Canít wait to see it on the line soon.
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Old 10-25-2021, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by David Puddy View Post
I thought someone said a 3 year equipment lock but I could be mistakenÖ. The E190/95 makes sense if you want to fly out-and-backs like Allegiant and sleep in your own bed. Should be very interesting to see how they use the A220 considering itís range flexibility and low break even load factorÖ And dang it do look good in blue:

https://www.ktvn.com/story/44717505/...0-300-aircraft

Canít wait to see it on the line soon.
Speaking of the A220, Iím curious myself. Iíve noticed more interest of Legacyís in the 220 and am wondering if Breeze isnít grabbing a market by the lug nuts and remodeling route structures as we know it. Could be an interesting period of growth (which I think it will be and in a great way) and a once in a lifetime opportunity. Seems this business model was slowly trending up prior to the COVID ground-stop but was exaggerated during the Great Recovery and is a race to expand a market and open new route opportunities. Too early to talk mergers? Perhaps, but I wouldnít ride that off as a possibility in the not so distant future. Looking at previous acquisitions of other carriers, I canít help but think that is a possibility.
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Old 10-26-2021, 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by StateChamps06 View Post
Speaking of the A220, Iím curious myself. Iíve noticed more interest of Legacyís in the 220 and am wondering if Breeze isnít grabbing a market by the lug nuts and remodeling route structures as we know it. Could be an interesting period of growth (which I think it will be and in a great way) and a once in a lifetime opportunity. Seems this business model was slowly trending up prior to the COVID ground-stop but was exaggerated during the Great Recovery and is a race to expand a market and open new route opportunities. Too early to talk mergers? Perhaps, but I wouldnít ride that off as a possibility in the not so distant future. Looking at previous acquisitions of other carriers, I canít help but think that is a possibility.

Thereís speculation David wants JB back and Breeze could be a way to do it.
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Old 10-26-2021, 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Swapapotamoose View Post
Whatís avelo and sunny paying these days ??
Avelo just got a raise, looks like basically Alligeant pay but better 1st FO pay and worse 1st CA. I hear soft pay is a different story.


FO 1- 70/hr. CA. 1- 135
2- 105. 2- 165
3- 111. 3- 180
4- 117. 4- 185
5- 124 5- 190

also get housing allowance increased to 1800/month
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Old 10-26-2021, 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by odinstink View Post
Avelo just got a raise, looks like basically Alligeant pay with much better 1st FO pay. I hear soft pay is a different story.

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link doesnít work
thanks, I just edited it to type it out since it wasnít much information
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