Exactly what I was wondering about... propaganda in disguise. Thanks for the honest review.

 

Boeing will either clean up its act out of pure survival instinct or they will be mainly a defense contractor. The idea that the FAA will provide appropriate oversight is laughable. Boeing to the FAA is akin to Pfizer and the FDA. Most government oversight bodies are corrupted by incompetent political appointees at the leadership levels.

 

Just what Boeing doesn’t need

https://www.foxnews.com/world/china-...people-crashes

Wasn't a MAX, -8NG. Dive straight into the ground from cruise, Smells like might be another Gemanwings thing to me.

 

Probably true. Gov regulators are invariably over-matched by private industry.

 

Just watched it. Overall well done. It definitely documented in a very damning way the shift in culture at Boeing after the MD marriage.

It also documented very effectively the campaign by Boeing to keep the MAX a common type with no additional sim training (this they were adamant about per internal documents).

What the documentary didn’t go into AT ALL was the mishandling of the emergencies by the pilots of both MAXes. So yes, all of the blame was placed on Boeing.

 

Congress mandated the FAA to designate ODAs (self-certification), like at Boeing. In my experience the agencies are often cut off at the knees by either funding or mandates like this which keep them from carrying out the mission.

 

Yes, but the US union leader in the video didn't think that ten seconds was enough time, even for US pilots. I tend to agree, there was a lot of stuff going on associated with the failure and the trim wheel motion was not continuous, therefor harder to spot as a runaway. I'd say less likely to happen in the US, but not safe.

Also, BCA lost track of exactly *who* they were selling planes to. Airbus never had that problem, they always had low expectations.

 

Having had an insidious runaway trim in the 737 I can say that if you are engaged with the airplane it is absolutely obvious right away…What did them both in was not so much the mis handling of the runaway trim but leaving the thrust at take off setting and allowing the airplane to grossly exceed Vmax. At 200 kts(clean maneuver speed approx) they could have easily overcome the runaway trim..

 

Yup agreed. For all of you non-737 aviators out there, don’t forget that we have the exposed trim wheels that make a lot of commotion when the trim is running. Granted there was a lot of other commotion for these poor crews during their emergencies but I’d like to think that more experienced crews would have had a better chance of making it out successfully.

 

So, if a Fire Warning goes off when taking off at 120 knots and there are any other lights or alarms go off you are just going to hack the clock and wait for more than 10 seconds to do anything? No, you will immediately react, because that is what you were trained to do. Pilots should be trained to deal with emergencies. Even complicated ones, 10 seconds is an eternity. Even after 10 seconds with the MCAS trim runaways the main electric pitch trim switches still worked and would override MCAS. Yeah, then it would run again, but trim it back out... that is what the Captain in the Lion Air crash did, several times. If the FO had done the same the crash would not have happened. In the Ethiopian crash if either pilot had used the main electric trim for more than 2 seconds they would have been fine as well. The whole reason pilots ALPA want 2 trained pilots sitting in the front, is to fly the plane when it is broken. That is our job.

Love how people praise AB for devaluing our job as pilots. We will just build an airplane that does everything for you and will give you a tray table so you have something to do. However, last I checked, pilots have still figured out how to crash AB aircraft.