ALPA: Don't raise retirement age
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Because any pension will be gone after the next bankruptcy. No thanks, I’ll take my money now.
#144
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#145
Formal standards for standardized "ab initio" pilot training programs, anyone?
Works for the military. Works for Lufthansa.
Airlines don't want to do it here, because they haven't had to, but also because they're at risk of the feds changing the rules/standards mid stream.
Works for the military. Works for Lufthansa.
Airlines don't want to do it here, because they haven't had to, but also because they're at risk of the feds changing the rules/standards mid stream.
#146
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Probably the dumbest thing ALPA has done. UAL wants to expand and grow along with other airlines and ALPA is putting up a roadblock to mainly international expansion. Good thing these geniuses are not managing the airlines. But I digress irregardless of ALPA passing a worthless resolution the FAA / ICAO and Congess will increase the age because the traveling public will demand it. It's the only option that will fix the current mess overnight
Only way to allow the growth plan to be realized and shore up the pilot pipe line. The airlines are leaving massive amounts of revenue sitting at the gates trying to get to their destination. ALPA lead or get out of the way. It's not like those senior WB Captains won't continue to pay dues. More pilots = more dues. But then again pilots are weak at basic math ( 63K 401K vs 130K lifetime pension what has more value ? ). This is my point. ALPA can scream.all they want but the vast majority of pilots want the retirement age lifted to meet demand.
Formal standards for standardized "ab initio" pilot training programs, anyone?
Works for the military. Works for Lufthansa.
Airlines don't want to do it here, because they haven't had to, but also because they're at risk of the feds changing the rules/standards mid stream.
Works for the military. Works for Lufthansa.
Airlines don't want to do it here, because they haven't had to, but also because they're at risk of the feds changing the rules/standards mid stream.
Also ab initio pilots typically have less internal motivation/drive to become pilots... you'll get a lot more dudes and dudettes who aren't really passionate enough about flying to get it done themselves.
Let's not try to solve management's problems for them.
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#148
Germany is not alone in having tragic incidents like this either. (FedEx 705, anyone? Stanford alum AND US Navy trained/psych eval-ed)
Pretty sure that the ab initio training and flight skills weren't the problem.
(Not advocating ab initio....it is a threat to collective bargaining. Fortunately, US airlines aren't about to put down a penny more for training costs than absolutely necessary before the robots take over. Just throwing it out there.)
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He was an ab initio cadet with 100 something hours when hired. He locked the Captain out of the cockpit and committed suicide by crashing into the Alps and killed all 144 aboard.
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