180ToAJ

Those may be traits of HPD, but name calling is usually a sure fire sign of losing an argument. You didn’t call him that directly, but we all know what you were doing.

Clearedtocross

Yep, losing an argument and projecting.

13n144e

They're not. I made it up.
What exactly is the "argument?" There's no debate here. I started out posting some factual information and Cleared responded with a bunch of unsolicited disparaging nonsense.
Nothing gets by you does it. If you get all upset about disparaging remarks, then I'd suggest not starting with them.

Clearedtocross

This^^^ is where 13n144e pivoted to fabricating quotes (of others) to argue against, providing (Airline Pilot) medical diagnosis, and began using expletives.
I believe that deep down some of the 67 proponents know exactly what they are doing, but have trouble when it's spelled out for them.

AF OneWire

At this point the age 67 proponents should just own what they are doing. It’s a money grab by those at the top end of the seniority spectrum using an asymmetric political process.

Stop gaslighting the younger crowd that this will be “good for us”. We don’t want to pay your extra LTD, or delay seniority so you can have two more years at the top to make up for your personal finance mistakes.

Just own it, you want to screw over the younger pilots to get yourself 2 extra years at the top, and you’ll use whatever political means you need to without regard to the impacts on the profession.

rickair7777

We're going to shut this down for the time being, everything that needs to be said has been said, many times over.

Somebody pmail me when there are new legislative developments and I'll open it back up.

Beechnut

The other locked thread turned into a ****ing match and I found no good information.
Does someone have a short explanation of what the latest news is?

sailingfun

I suspect that since the big airlines jumped in opposing it and it really provides no help to the regionals at the moment it's probably dead.

StoneQOLdCrazy

I haven't seen anything about that in the media, and you have certainly posted "facts" that weren't true before. What are your sources?

rickair7777

It's not "dead" or "on the shelf".

Age 67 is included in the HR, and is not included in the SR. Those two bills MUST be 100% reconciled down to the last T crossed before the FAA re-authorization can be sent to the WH for signature.

Next step will be conference committee, where hand-picked reps from both house and senate hash out a synchronized version of the two bills, which is palatable to leadership of both houses. That will happen behind closed doors, and we (the public) will have zero insight into the process until the results are returned to both houses for consent ratification (which is normally pro forma).

You can speculate as to how conference might go down, based on the political manuevers that have been publicly observed to date. But you can't know for sure.

Conference doesn't seem imminent at this point, they may be busy with other issues.