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Old 03-23-2023 | 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by dmeg13021
How many get out at 60 today?

Will absolutely be a majority, despite exhortations to the contrary.
I believe it’s 40-50% who essentially retire on LTD. Guys getting out at 60 isn’t the issue. It’s TV e one’s who want to stay past 65. There will be quite a few. I don’t think it will be the majority.
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Old 03-23-2023 | 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Crjdeuce
Forced downgrade at 65 if you wish to continue til 67

COG screen for EVERYONE!
that would weed out many regardless of age, it is quite difficult……… no problem “aceing” it 😎
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Old 03-23-2023 | 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by DownWithNarita
Yeah that airline pilot vote really sways elections.
Says a guy who thinks airline pilot votes have enough clout to sway a vote in favor of extending it. Lol. Hypocrisy is your generation's superpower.
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Old 03-23-2023 | 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by madmax757
Imagine being a captain for 20 plus years and now you’re doing the pre / post flights in the cold rain. Single engine taxi checks and flows. The right seat is a lot more physical and mental
work if you ask me. If you’re a big 3 pilot then senior WB FO but that’s exhausting imho. Idk about that.
If the age changes to 67 forced downgrades would never happen. It would trigger immediate age discrimination lawsuits that would be guaranteed winners. Management would never consider it knowing they would lose big time in court. The only way to beat it is insure that 67 does not pass. Write both your Senators and your Congressman. Letters make a difference.
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Old 03-23-2023 | 07:06 AM
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I already power through so many aches and pains in my mid 50s right now, can just imagine in 10 more years. I can’t wait to collect my non taxed LTD till I’m 67 while sipping margaritas at my place in Mexico.
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Old 03-23-2023 | 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by ReserveCA
COG screen for EVERYONE!
that would weed out many regardless of age, it is quite difficult……… no problem “aceing” it 😎
After my age induced furlough I am still going to get rich selling a "How to Pass the Cog Screen" guide to the unsuspecting elderly for $5,000. Then hire some influencers to get the message out how cheap it is when you could lose your 500k a year job. I might even branch out into one on one online prep courses. Just remember: "person, woman, man, camera, TV.". That first one is free.
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Old 03-23-2023 | 07:25 AM
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I don’t post here much but this topic seems to pull the aggression and immaturity out of many. With the advancement in preventative medicine and a more robust approach to healthy lifestyles the aging process is changing for the better. Within a decade we are going to see a lot of age related disease either eradicated or slowed considerably so tell me why should there be any mandatory retirement laws. I know surgeons, professors, scientists etc that are as sharp as a tack and are practicing in their fields with admiration. I know pilots who have retired and went right into the training environment to produce new pilots so if they’re in such cognitive decline how are they qualified to train, think about that. Everybody’s different and can be sacked medically at any time, age doesn’t matter. All I see here is selfishness. I’m not close to retirement btw but if the person I’m in the cockpit is safe and standard I don’t care what his/her age is. I wholeheartedly believe in physical standards and yes they should evolve with newer protocols and detection techniques but the era of age discrimination needs to go the way of the dodo. No other pilot has the power to tell another to “get out of my way boomer” or whatever other phrase has been lobbed towards older colleagues. I’m sure the many that oppose didn’t get to experience pay for training, post 9/11 lost decade, TWA/American staple, US Air pension forfeiture etc. so keep the perspective that todays time in the profession is great for the foreseeable future. Those who say the economy is gonna tank and cause layoffs well let me tell ya we’re all numbers and layoffs will happen regardless of the retirement age. So get over yourselves and realize in the end we all benefit when we’re not discriminated against.
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Old 03-23-2023 | 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
If the age changes to 67 forced downgrades would never happen. It would trigger immediate age discrimination lawsuits that would be guaranteed winners. Management would never consider it knowing they would lose big time in court. The only way to beat it is insure that 67 does not pass. Write both your Senators and your Congressman. Letters make a difference.
I think they meant to say the law would read age 65 to act as PIC, and 67 to act as SIC. Pilot shortage solved while maintaining safety.
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Old 03-23-2023 | 07:42 AM
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Everyone’s concern is selfish. My selfishness just includes everyone else who’s under 63 right now.
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Old 03-23-2023 | 07:43 AM
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Really feels like a bailout for the regionals who got caught with their pants down racing to the bottom. If the unions and the major airlines are against it maybe the dirtbag RAA is for it
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