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03-22-2023 | 05:47 AM

#131

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Originally Posted by Moonbeam

Reintroduce an hour ago. Just in time! At least the banks aren't failing this time and a recession is not on the horizon. What could go wrong? Yes I am ripe with sarcasm.

Are you a banana or did you mean rife? 😂

03-22-2023 | 07:46 AM

#132

Thatsapproved

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From: B737 CA

This will ruin recruitment at AA. Airlines with upgrades over 2 years will struggle to find decent applicants.

03-22-2023 | 08:04 AM

#133

at6d

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From: B737 Left Seat

Let them come back as FO’s.

03-22-2023 | 08:50 AM

#134

rickair7777

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From: Engines Turn or People Swim

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Originally Posted by Thatsapproved

This will ruin recruitment at AA. Airlines with upgrades over 2 years will struggle to find decent applicants.

I remember when upgrades were 20 years.

03-22-2023 | 08:55 AM

#135

Myfingershurt

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From: MD-88 FO

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Originally Posted by rickair7777

I remember when upgrades were 20 years.

…and a dude delivered your milk in quart sized glass bottles, and gas was &.50/gallon, and flight attendants were hot. The good ole days, amiright?!

03-22-2023 | 10:11 AM

#136

Moonbeam

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From: A330 FO

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Originally Posted by ThumbsUp

Are you a banana or did you mean rife? 😂

Ha! I am ripe with old man smell! I still would like someone to explain in detail how this will help the shortage at the regional level.

03-22-2023 | 10:13 AM

#137

rickair7777

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Originally Posted by Myfingershurt

…and a dude delivered your milk in quart sized glass bottles, and gas was &.50/gallon, and flight attendants were hot. The good ole days, amiright?!

Wasn't anywhere near that long ago. I remember milk delivery as a little kid, but gas was $1.25. Actually the milk was a specialty thing, Mom was into health food... most folks just bought it at the store.

Mathematically, on average if 60% of pilots are CA's and the average pilot gets hired at 30, upgrade should take 14 years. That would be an average over time if retirements were consistent and everybody took the first available (they don't but the majority do in normal times).

1-2 year major upgrades are an historical anomaly, enjoy it while you can.

03-22-2023 | 10:23 AM

#138

Gone Flying

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From: UNA

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Originally Posted by Thatsapproved

This will ruin recruitment at AA. Airlines with upgrades over 2 years will struggle to find decent applicants.

the funny thing is anyone hired today will probably see the best career advancement at AA, but because DL and UA have lower upgrade times today you might have a point.

upgrade times for new hires at DL will rise significantly in the near future unless we plan some major growth.

03-22-2023 | 10:50 AM

#139

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Originally Posted by rickair7777

I’m guessing since the company has no real plans to improve schedules on the domestic side this will be more of a historical norm than an anomaly. Nobody wants to fly those crappy schedules but if you’re gonna be junior might as well be junior in the left seat.