But this is just a case of the kettle calling the pot black. they taxi slow for the same reason that you taxi fast. Its not selfishness. It is what it is.

 

FliFast wrote,

It's true when we switched over to AA's procedures we (TWA) were baffled by how long-winded their briefings and checklists were.

Truly, I'm not a big fan of my brethern at AA, however; before we are judge, jury, and executioner maybe there is more to the story.

75 writes,
You've been gone a long time. They've shortened most of the briefings, but some guys are long winded.

How do you know it wasn't a Ex TWA crew or Ex TWA CA taxiing out?

You've been gone a very long time.
You might want to consider chiming in or not based on what you hear on the TWA message board.

Just keepin' it real.
7576

as far as i'm concerned all pilots at AA are AA pilots. FliFast wants needs to continue the divide. He uses "My group" vs "Their group" "Red Tails" vs "Blue"

all pilots on the AA seniority list are AA pilots, anything else is sooooooooooo
2001.

 

There is no set number in our flight manual, nor is their any guidance on taxi speeds. There are a few references to careful taxiing around objects that are in close proximity, but that's it. The only thing I can reference is the AIM's guidance of a "fast walk."

I'm sorry this is such an issue for some of you out there, but the fact remains that with our long check lists and our sometime lengthy waits for load closeouts, we mostly choose to taxi at a speed that some of you may deem excessively slow. For us, it is all about getting the stuff done while not rushing, a.k.a. being safe.

73

 

It is what it is? Wow, how brilliant why didn't I think of that?

 

AA73,

Thank you for the info. I am not as familiar with the AIM (never was) but I would like to know how SWA got their numbers. I certainly don't want to open up a can of worms but 30 kts vs a fast walk is quite a discrepancy. I would have to say a fast walk could take quite a long time at some airports.

 

Nice, and you have an ATP ???

Makes me wonder who the FAA will let fly airplanes.

-Fatty

 

I think that it boils down to common courtesy. A lot of times when I am working ground control, pilots (often AAL) will tell me that "they are waiting on numbers" so that I can plan ahead and put them on another taxiway, if necessary. Otherwise, it's like driving down the highway in the left lane doing less than the speed limit and not passing anyone.

 

Hmmmm......Staying on the taxiway, or sliding off the taxiway??

I think I'll take the "fast walk" and stay on the taxiway

 

Each aircraft also has a flight manual. It normally has max taxi and turn speeds. I believe all Boeings are 10knots for a 90 degree turn. 15 knots for turns less then 90 degrees and 30 knots going straight. If you collapse a gear going faster then those speeds you can expect to hear from the FAA.

 

We get our numbers at the gate and complete the weight and balance stuff via the OPC before we push. If we have to wait for numbers it's because the Ops agent is slow.