I personally like to make money... I could make minimum guarantee at home. And apparently a lot of people havent meet their best friend BOB

 

"We'll gladly stop to accomadate you"? No you wont, the capt will call the atc facility and complain someone was getting preferential service. AAL does have the slowest taxi rate in the industry and also the highest complainers rate to atc. AAL gives atc problems almost anywhere they fly with the slow taxi speeds, complaining when we let someone go past you, wanting to push when you don't have your #'s, or we'll have our #'s when we get to the end as you slow ever more and still don't have your #'s. Other airlines wonder why atc just doesn't always put AAL at the back instead of letting them be a roadblock. The reason we don't is AAL thinks they are doing nothing wrong and are the 1st to complain about their "perceived preferential teatment" which means paperwork, pulling tapes, talking to the controllers involved. There is no one outside AAL that doesn't think they are the slowest in the industry.

 

Ok got it loud and clear thanks for the clarification

 

And no one is disagreeing with you. We don't necessarily look at our slowness in a bad way, mind you.

I for one do not complain when someone is put ahead of us. I have heard and flown with some CAs who have complained, to which I always respond that we're paid by the minute.

Go ahead, put us in the back of the pack. You won't hear a peep outta me!

73

 

If I or anyone else had to consistently go around due to a non-stop "use the whole runway" campaign you would get a lot of complaints!

Do NOT agree to this! At DAL we currently do not have an ASAP program because we (ALPA) pulled it down. There are a lot of dirty details, but the bottom line is that the company wanted to use ASAP in a way not IAW with the letter or spirit of the original ASAP agreement...so no ASAP at DAL until the company sees it our way.

Hey we know the feeling! Our new departed EVP of Operations was once the chief pilot for the airline...and on "high minimums" because he had less than 300 hrs in command! Or so I have been told.


Are you kidding me? While DH in coach can be miserable, if we DH on an "ocean crossing" (defined as non-stop across any pond, or S. of the equator, etc) it must be in business class.

 

American lets F/Os taxi?
fbh

 

Herk thanks for posting.

At AA we have no deadhead policy. I know UAl's is 4 hrs or less coach, more than 4 hrs Bus or better.

At AA whoever checks in for the flight first gets Business or on 777 first class.
That includes all flight attendants and non-revs, if it's a flight attendant commuting in to base, they get thru privileges to go ahead of the pilots.
Out of Miami there are many trips to deep South America where the crew deadheads at 8pm or 8:30 pm and flys the all nighter back the next night.
Yep, 16 hours on the ground and fly home.
Some pilots love it, I hate it.
There are many stories of flight attendants racing to the airport in say Santiago Chile to beat the pilots to get Business class deadheads for the flight home.
We have asked the Cheif Pilot VP ops to adopt a deadhead policy, he says he can't (read between lines afraid of FA's union)
Our Chief pilot says his brother is a 757 CA at NWA, when asked what NWA's deadhead policy was, he responded he didn't know.
How hard is it to call your brother.

 

FBH, why would you ask that?

Waiting for your big Captain ego response!
7576

 

While it is admirable to approach your chief pilot, how about your union? DAL gives us deadhead for ocean crossings, but it certainly isn't out of the goodness of their hearts! It is only because our contract compels it. Here are a few clippings from our contract:

"No deadhead will be booked on the jumpseat."

"A pilot who deadheads on an ocean crossing flight segment, as scheduled or rerouted, will be (emphasis added) provided business class accommodations. If the aircraft is not configured with business class, such pilot will be provided first class accommodations."

Good luck in everything.

 

The union is aware of it, and i'm not sure if it is part of our 2008 contract proposal. A deadhead policy. I just looked and didn't see a proposal.
We have the " "No deadhead will be booked on the jumpseat."
But nothing else.

We at AA are on a 1997 contract of which there was no hourly pay raise since 1992.
There never was a 2000 contract, we voted it down on Aug 31 2001 because it only matched DAL or UAL pay rates with no other contract enhancements.
Don Carty was CEO at that time.
In 2003 as most people know we took a 23% pay cut and gave up tons of other work rule concessions.
I'm off to write some e-mails to find out why it's not in the negotiating proposals.

See ya.