Bucking Bar

Got my butt handed to me on that idea. Ha Ha.

JetFlyer06

So, as things are today at DAL do DCI employees travel at a different priority than mainline DAL folks? Are they thinking of changing the non-rev priority of the DCI employees and putting them in order of DOH?

At NWA - XJ, CP, and 9E traveled at at lower priority than mainline employees. IE a NWA employee would travel as a 5 and an XJ, CP, or 9E employee would be a 5W (this is for both mainline flights and their own). At NWA, my DOH was always listed for non-rev purposes.

Maybe I am misunderstanding something here.

Imapilot2

OK a few things need to be cleaned up here. First, ASA travels as S3C...period. Secondly Comair travels the same as mainline..S3 with DOH being the separation in the class itself. The RUMOR is that Mesaba and Compass may get what Comair has. If that proves to be true then JetFlyer06 you are about to get Bucked. You once traveled ahead of ALL your regionals. It is rumored that your regionals (unless you are senior) are about to bump you off your own ac.

Lastly....Ac.....um how can I say this politely...that is bucked up thinking. Bucking bar is IMO correct. It was bucked up to let Comair have it and IT IS EVEN MORE BUCKED UP TO START ADDING OTHERS. We should be king on our airplanes and they can be King on theirs.

To all you FNWA folks, I hope you understand what is about to happen to you on your commutes and vacations in Detroit Memphis and Minneapolis. Better speak up now before it gets inked.

Imapilot2

That's like saying that our pay scales have a set precedence there is no reason to raise them.

acl65pilot

I am not saying it is correct. I am saying that there is a precedence there.
DALPA argues what is in the contract, not what is fair.
When DCI, (EV etc) were going to travel on a S3C on their own aircraft a few years ago, they made it really clear to the mainline management that if it went this way, no non-revs would get on their jet. Not just us but theirs too, just to prove a point. DAL management gave ASA what they wanted. S3 on their jets and S3C on ours. Opposite for us.
It was argued that they were flying on contract for us, and we should get priority on all of the DAL branded flights, but they won out.

I am telling you that, they may change it to benefit us, but it will be a battle royal. DCI's answer was to make everyone travel on DOH. That did not fly either. What we see now at DAL-S is the effects of a truce.
I agree that we should get priority on all flights, but I am also realistic in knowing that DAL will not "buck" DCI.
I could be wrong, but if you watch their feet, and past actions, I hold no hope.
The benefit of Non-reving is in our contract, how it is are prioritized and managed by the company is not. (I was just playing Devil's advocate, and Bar and I had a long phone call about it. There is no want in god's green earth that DALPA is going to expend any energy on travel benefits that effect the junior folks, sadly we both agree with that)

acl65pilot

No it is not the same. It is a lot different. It is more like the fact that health insurance is provided for and discussed in the PWA. The rates and how the majority of it is managed is not.

newKnow

I'm kind of ignoring this thread, because I refuse to believe that the feeders employees would have priority over DAL employees on DAL flights. Will someone tell me to stop making assumptions, read the thread, and that is NOT what is being said. I'm kind of busy and can't real all of these things. Thanks.

New K Now

acl65pilot

No New you are correct.

It was old management though, I guess that might be a silver lining.

Imapilot2

Your kidding right? You don't have to worry about it because Comair has done this for years. Welcome to Delta. The rumor is that they may add Compass and Mesaba to the list for you. How about them apples?

acl65pilot

Funny thing is the rumor on that side of the fence is that OH will be brought down to their level.