Bucking Bar

Do you play the Cow Bell?

Is the "new policy" means less stress as 60% of the Delta pilots can commute without fear when they learn their current seniority will not hold their current equipment and base, it would be a very good thing. Save the Company a lot of last minute sick calls and save Delta pilots commuting OUT of ATL a lot of stress related illnesses.

acl65pilot

Agreed, Bar.

Fact is Slow that this subject is one that I have never discussed with these so called 4th floor friends.


I do not see how that is a pot shot, maybe I am dense, but what I have been trying to state, is that it is a benefit not a right.

I would prefer to have priority but DAL manages it. That is not a pot shot at my coworkers. So move on.

acl65pilot

And Slow one more thing.

All this slander that you say I am spewing towards DALPA, is exactly what DALPA told me a few years ago, when I was asking some very pointed questions when we were hiring.
It was the arguement used against me, and thus the only reason, I see it being the same arguement used now.
I would love to have this change, and my sarcastic tint me incorrect.
I guess I could go ask some people and see what the new policy is going to be, but I have had other things that have been more pertinent.

sailingfun

Since most of the flights, 100 percent this summer in the case of BHM are RJ's the pilot should be hoping there is no change in this policy since he will get on the flight last if it is changed as you wish. Again this policy if you think it out is in our best interest from the most junior to most senior pilot. Remember that the junior pilot is going to be here a long time. In 3 years he will be senior to 90 percent of the employees at a owned DCI carrier and have priority on their as well as mainline flights. Since DCI is a big part of our domestic system only someone with a really flawed logic process would want to go to the back of the line on those flights. Everything is a tradeoff. In this case its a great trade for the mainline. I suspec tthe only policy that some here would be happy with is that we go first on their flights and first on our flights.

slowplay

If there's more pertinent things to do, then why are you "adding" to this discussion with things that aren't true? Just to remind you what you wrote:

Originally Posted by acl65pilot

Quote:

Originally Posted by acl65pilot

I could be wrong, but if you watch their (ALPA's) feet, and past actions, I hold no hope.

Hey, I get it. It's an anonymous webboard, so you don't have to be accountable for linguistic precision (or anything that you type). But don't crap on your co-workers and then hide.

acl65pilot

I am just repeating what ALPA told me when I asked about the bennies.

I just did not make this crap up on my own.

I also stated in my second quote that, I could be wrong. Alas an opening. As previously stated, I am using words spoken to me in the first person to come up with this stance. I did not pull it out of thin air, and furthermore, it is not a rip on ALPA.

I was told that we are afforded this as a benefit, but we can not dictate how it is managed at the current time. I then asked if we would spell out the level of benefits in a future contract, and was basically told no. It is not worth the time.
Again, not my words.

I will give you though that I should have read my last quote through and spell checked. I did not.

acl65pilot

I liked what we have now on DAL, but something a little different on DCI.

And 90% is an over exaggeration.

Imapilot2

Not even close at Mesaba and Comair. Maybe in 10 years you would be right. Not even close at 3. I had ten at Mesaba, I left at the 25 percentile, and that was just pilots! It takes ten years at Comair just to hold 200 CA. So that means 10 years doesn't even break 50%!

sailingfun

All very true for pilots. A airline however actually has other employees besides pilots. The turnover in other areas is huge. Even at mainline Delta the average ramper at JFK works 6 months! The turnover in rampers, janitors, agents, ect... is very high.

Fly4hire

And who says this is the choice we have, and what leads you down this line of reasoning?