Pass Benefits at DAL
04-23-2009, 12:19 PM
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DALPA does have the company over the barrel with these DCI contracts. DAL pays no matter what. No one knows about it though. Reading this makes you and others realize that if we ever came to a point where a strike was authorized and necessary, there are some major financial disadvantages for the company not to settle asap!
04-23-2009, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
EV has 17 years left of their contract. That is correct 17 years.
It's in the annual report if you can't find it...
04-23-2009, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by LOBO
Ok so can the second flight actually be two flights?
i.e. DFW to JFK,Delta only has one flight at 0815 in the morning operated by Comair and you don't get on that one then your next option is DFW-ATL-JFK(LGA)? Would this qualify?
(Usually doing the AA thing to LGA that they do every hour and half)
i.e. DFW to JFK,Delta only has one flight at 0815 in the morning operated by Comair and you don't get on that one then your next option is DFW-ATL-JFK(LGA)? Would this qualify?
(Usually doing the AA thing to LGA that they do every hour and half)
04-23-2009, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
As you've reviewed this contract, can you tell everyone how many aircraft EV has under contract at the 17 year point?
It's in the annual report if you can't find it...
It's in the annual report if you can't find it...
Per the 10K it is 16 in 2020. This can be amended per the options outlined in this agreement.
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04-23-2009, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
It is my understanding that, that figure is part of exhibit A. Per this document is is whited out.
Look at page F37 of the annual report. In 2020 ASA is only contracted to have 16 aircraft in operation for Delta. They currently have 141.
Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Don't be smug you give the answer away. It is apparent that you think I am a management plant, which I am not.
Why?
yeah, I know, you're not a management plant.
04-23-2009, 01:38 PM
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ASA 141 141 16 2020
SkyWest Airlines 80 82 37 2020
ASA/SkyWest Airlines(1) 12 12 12 2012
Chautauqua 24 24 24 2016
Freedom (ERJ-145 aircraft)(2) 28 28 22 2012
Shuttle America 16 16 16 2019
Pinnacle (CRJ-900 aircraft) 18 16 16 2019
Pinnacle (CRJ-200 aircraft) 124 124 124 2017
Total 443 443 267
First Line is 12/08 Second 12/09 and third is at the end of the agreement
SkyWest Airlines 80 82 37 2020
ASA/SkyWest Airlines(1) 12 12 12 2012
Chautauqua 24 24 24 2016
Freedom (ERJ-145 aircraft)(2) 28 28 22 2012
Shuttle America 16 16 16 2019
Pinnacle (CRJ-900 aircraft) 18 16 16 2019
Pinnacle (CRJ-200 aircraft) 124 124 124 2017
Total 443 443 267
First Line is 12/08 Second 12/09 and third is at the end of the agreement
04-23-2009, 01:41 PM
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Once again Slowplay you misread what I said. My point was that DALPA does not determine pass privilege policy. DAL management does.
As I was told by our union we at the present time to not have it in the JPWA as how to determine how the passes are managed and who get on what jets in what priority. That is not a union function. That is what I was told and that is what I wrote.
It was not a rip on ALPA. I think you are just assuming that I have it out for ALPA, which I do not.
As I was told by our union we at the present time to not have it in the JPWA as how to determine how the passes are managed and who get on what jets in what priority. That is not a union function. That is what I was told and that is what I wrote.
It was not a rip on ALPA. I think you are just assuming that I have it out for ALPA, which I do not.
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04-23-2009, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Once again Sailing you misread what I said. My point was that DALPA does not determine pass privilege policy. DAL management does.
As I was told by our union we at the present time to not have it in the JPWA as how to determine how the passes are managed and who get on what jets in what priority. That is not a union function. That is what I was told and that is what I wrote.
It was not a rip on ALPA. I think you are just assuming that I have it out for ALPA, which I do not.
As I was told by our union we at the present time to not have it in the JPWA as how to determine how the passes are managed and who get on what jets in what priority. That is not a union function. That is what I was told and that is what I wrote.
It was not a rip on ALPA. I think you are just assuming that I have it out for ALPA, which I do not.
I have no idea what you are talking about. I made a simple post about the new policy now being out and that the forum was wrong about the changes. Never mentioned you or anything you posted.
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