Originally Posted by SharkyBN584

Take a Tums. There isn't a single pilot at a single company that would refuse to do this flying. They'll say they will on the internet...but push comes to shove if this were being done by anyone else you'd get the same result. As such, I'm not going to fall on a sword just to have someone step over my body on their way to my job. Telling me I need to refuse to fly and lose my job to help someone that would NOT do the same for me is retarded. Give me a legal solution that doesn't take my job away and I'd be happy to help.

It's funny how up-in-arms people get when it requires THEM to do absolutely nothing. I am not, nor have I ever, celebrated the moves my management has made. I have never been happy about replacing a crew member from another airline. But I'm not about to apologize for doing my friggin' job to a bunch of hypocrites who gave away this industry years ago.

Edit - And while we're on the subject...where was the outrage when SkyWest replaced SkyWay?

Originally Posted by SharkyBN584

They're at every airline and they would act that way at any airline. Not defending it or saying it's right...just that no matter where you go, you're likely to encounter a moron. When I came to RAH, they had a huge base right next to my house and did some pretty vanilla flying for 4 airlines without really stepping on anyones toes. 3 years, 4 new partners, 3 acquired airlines, 3 different bases, and 2 new airframes later I'm a monster. Eh...whatever...

Originally Posted by SharkyBN584

Take a Tums. There isn't a single pilot at a single company that would refuse to do this flying. They'll say they will on the internet...but push comes to shove if this were being done by anyone else you'd get the same result. As such, I'm not going to fall on a sword just to have someone step over my body on their way to my job. Telling me I need to refuse to fly and lose my job to help someone that would NOT do the same for me is retarded. Give me a legal solution that doesn't take my job away and I'd be happy to help.

It's funny how up-in-arms people get when it requires THEM to do absolutely nothing. I am not, nor have I ever, celebrated the moves my management has made. I have never been happy about replacing a crew member from another airline. But I'm not about to apologize for doing my friggin' job to a bunch of hypocrites who gave away this industry years ago.

Edit - And while we're on the subject...where was the outrage when SkyWest replaced SkyWay?

Originally Posted by swimheiss

Hi guys, I'm not by any means a pilot, but a longtime fan and previous Midwest customer.
I see a lot of validity to every point you all argue, but I think there needs to be an enhanced presence from the passengers to make things happen. I'm including the text of an email I just sent to RAH's customer service email address listed on their website. I know that their people will probably ignore this or send a bull**** reply, but I think we need more activism overall to help protect the dignity of the piloting profession, as well as that of the F/A's etc.
Here's the message I sent:

To whom it may concern:
I would like to congratulate all of you on your success of saving the future of Midwest Airlines. Although Midwest is a little-known niche airline in the overall industry, ownership of this airline carries some big responsibility. Midwest customers are not the traditional low-budget citizens of the "United States of Amnesia" who will willingly fly any route at the lowest price possible on whatever regional aircraft and seating arrangement happens to be available with underpaid, underqualified, and underslept flight crews happen to be available just because some freshly baked cookies happen to be available instead of peanuts or pretzels. If we wanted that, we'd fly Southwest and mobilize Grandma in advance for half the price. Midwest's business plan was based on a loyal customer base that was willing to pay more for the services they preferred. Many of these customers have deep sentiments about the beginnings of the airline with the Kimberly Clark Corporation, providing the Best Care in the Air.
I understand that you may feel that there are financial and business reasons to get rid of the widely known Midwest aircraft, flight crews, and seating arrangements. If you are truly going to go through with that, then you might as well put your cards on the table and declare the entire Midwest Airlines name and trademark dead and gone. Anything else is just putting lipstick on a pig.
As a former Midwest customer, I will miss the service and quality of experience that I received while flying with Midwest. For a premium of about 30% over comparable coach arrangements, I was able to consistently experience a first class flight with first-class accommodations.
As much as I will miss flying with the former Midwest Airlines, please do not expect me or people like me to be dumb enough to hang on to the brand out of nostalgia. Unless the aircraft, flight crews, and seating arrangements are brought back, consider the brand dead.
Thank you for your time and consideration.

Now I know some of you who are reading this are current RAH pilots and may be deeply offended, but rather than giving me a nasty reply, lets see you suck it up and fight your management to let the MEH pilots into your seniority list with wages that are at least within range of what they previously received. If not, then lobby really hard to eliminate everything that says "Midwest" on every plane, in every terminal, and on every piece of marketing. There is little room for middle ground on this.
I apologize in advance for my tone, and thank you for your time.

Originally Posted by acl65pilot

As a native of MKE, I agree, MEH has a niche and they actually connected a lot of passengers from the NE to LAX and the like. People were willing to pay a little more, stop over in MKE and then continue on to the West coast. RJET made a gamble on MEH, and if the loads I am seeing out of ATL to MKE are any indication, they are not making money.

My parents have also flipped the bird at MEH after 11-03-09. I was impressed, because it means a connection in ATL or ORD for them now. It says a lot when you irk loyal customers.

Originally Posted by acl65pilot

Like I have said, it is the selfish and self centeredness that is killing this industry for all us.

Originally Posted by JoeMerchant

That applies to ALL of us....Including YOU...You went to work for a regional that took flying from Delta. You now work for Delta that owned part of MidEx thru the NWA aquistion...What have you guys done for the MidEx pilots? What did the Delta MEC do for the Eastern pilots?

We all are doing what is best for each of us, and we are not a true "brotherhood"....If we were, we wouldn't require our "brothers" to give up their longevity and seniority with a change of uniform....

I see a lot of pot's calling the kettle black and wanting other pilots to fall on their sword for the "industry".