SkyHawq,

You are so green that you don't even know what I am referring to. What is asinine is that you feel entitled to reply to my statements when you are a pilot mill graduate who hasn't even sat in an airliner yet.

Just so you know if you ever do make it to an RJ. You will fly the same plane to the same 6 to 10 airports and will fly the same ILS approach again and again. Over and over till the days blur into a mind numbing unending chain of similar events conversations and actions. You will stay in the same hotel and possibly the same room in that same hotel and wear the same clothes everyday. Once a year FO's will go to the sim and do a few different things then back to the grind.

In training one day you will do touch and goes and the next perhaps stalls. Every few months you will advance to a new airplane or rating but it isn't like that once you reach the airlines. You can't say to the captain " I think I will practice a forward slip on this landing". Well,, perhaps you could do that once. I know that you have some lofty ideas but they just are not so. I have nothing against anyone's ideas or opinions but I hate to see a green new guy make such a fool out of themselves.


My goal is to help starry eyed kids from doing exactly what you have or will do which is to blow a small fortune on a dream that only exists on glossy brochures.

SKyHigh

 

I was just watching FLIGHT 93 the 9-11 story....that also influenced a decline, when the world heard that someone(terrorist) could learn to fly a 767 in 8 months to a year....people realized if those idiots can do it, anyone can....concluded therefore pilots are overpayed for something that is easy to learn and do....

 

Ya know, they learned how to fly it straight and level. Make turns, climbs descents. My private student could fly it. The difference is the skills, systems, and good judgement that lead to a good pilot. Not a suicide bomber.

 

SkyHawq, you're "ATP Bound"? Private message me if you are ABOUT to go there and I'll help you understand why that would be the worst decision you could possibly make. I've been there at the SUA field.

 

They barely learned to fly them. The second WTC pilot almost missed. Of course they were all well into the overspeed "clacker."

The Pentagon pilot couldn't find the Pentagon. He circled for a bit trying to find a very large pentagon shaped building.

I wouldn't call them pilots. I'd call them fortunate to have Boeing build their bombs.

 

I think you have underestimated what the terrorists were able to accomplish. It required some navigation, basic aircraft knowledge and some fairly advanced airmanship skills. I certainly am not trying to make these guys out to be anything less than horrid terrorists but it does make a case for the ease of operating a modern jet. The terrorists only had FS2000 and a few hours in a 172. With classroom instruction and a real simulator I would bet that you could take a guy off the street and in 90 days make him into an effective First Officer with zero prior experience.

SkyHigh

 

You never made Captain, did you?

Skybolt

 

It's SkyHawg not SkyHawq.

 

No bolt I didn't make captain in the airlines however I have too much command time in part 135 piston and turbine twins. Your point??

My idea isn't new. Overseas airlines like Cathay and JAL have cadet programs that are similar in nature. Even UAL in the 80's set up an entry level flight academy in anticipation of a pilot shortage that never materialized. While at Horizon Air I met a new hire who had the bare FAA 141 minimums of 190 hours in actual airplanes and he did just fine. I think it is more than possible.

A part of the reason that captains get paid more is that they might have to do a little OJT at times. The FO is there to, in part, build experience under the guidance of a more experienced crew member. Sometimes it is the FO who informs the captain of recent changes to operating procedures since they just got out of training.

SkyHigh

 

My mistake, I am sorry SkyHawg.


SkyHigh


Let's all get High on flying !!