Joe;

I dont know if I get it or not.

I dont hate regional pilots...just another squirrel trying to get a nut. DALPA (we) effed up loosening scope and now we cant seem to put together an official gameplan to get it back except to hear guys say: "how much are you willing to pay to recapture scope?"

I am against ALPAs support of the flight school over experience arguement. I have always thought that if you want to fly people in big airplanes, you should have an atp. What I think is immaterial. ALPA's official policy is weak and lagged the CAPA.

I think that passing a major airline's interview process is hardly a weeding out process, but whatever DAL does works, because I always fly with great folks.

I don't feel like "I have arrived" because I am a "major airline pilot." I made 45K/year more on my DAL w-2 as a 5th year pilot than I do as a 12th year (payscale) pilot. I have had a second career since before bankruptcy. If I had arrived, I wouldn't need/want that.

We always have pilots on here talk about scope as it relates to the regional pilot...how they arent qualified...what about Alaska?

I am rambling, but I dont know if I get it...I am pretty sure ALPA doesnt get it though either.

 

Do you not even remember what you just posted? Since you apparently do not, let's review shall we:

I responded to this post as follows:

One minute you say a 52% increase, and the next minute you ask about citing examples showing a pilot group demanding double the cost of their pilot payroll year over year.

I'm betting you weren't a math major.

Carl

 

You would be correct. He doesnt have a degree. Hence Airtran....

 

Nobody is saying regional guys should be shunned. Do you normally make things up in order to make an argument that you could not make otherwise?

"Bringing" the regional guys in is exactly the problem. None of us at the majors are "brought" to our airlines. We at the majors ALL have to go through a very tough hiring process. Regional pilots must go through the same hiring process that we all had to do. No special treatment. I have no idea what the true motives are of people like you who wish to circumvent the hiring process for one particular group of pilots.

Now with regard to this dream of yours ending outsourcing, again you couldn't be more wrong. Even if we at the majors did exactly what you proffer, this would not in any way prevent another bottom feeding regional airline bidding for more bottom feeding flying. Then the process starts all over again.

Carl

 

The same way many of us have done throughout the industry's history. Tough bargaining, and sometimes a strike.

You wouldn't know anything about either of those actions.

Carl

 

Cite the source document or any other evidence you have to back up this opinion yours.

Carl

 

Or we could hope to hit the lottery...like you did. You know, hire on with one of the sleaziest airlines ever created (ValuJet), then change its name so people will forget about the old name, then get bought out by Southwest Airlines, then get Southwest's pay rates.

America...the land of opportunity.

Carl

 

I couldn't agree more. All of your efforts here to name call, shame, libel and completely make things up in order to get pilots to stop turning in their DPA cards really were troubling to those of us who believe in a democratic process.

Carl

 

I agree. So what do you think is the solution to this problem?

 

Really? You turned down a job at the majors? And you only turned down a job at the majors because scope was sold?

As they say in the Senate, you may wish to revise and extend those remarks.

Carl