You mean like some very certain people (oh, the initials I could post...) who bank on FPL and make way more than the average pilot?

Why would they ever want the system to change that recirculates the same people?

 

I don't think "they" would.

Power to the Pilots!

 

I don't think that's really good enough for anyone. It doesn't matter what side are you on. This meeting was supposed to be a sign on the doorstep of both the airline and the union. The Atlanta press was brought in to make it public and show how many pilots are dissatisfied. Visually, it's not very good. It might read better or sound better, but mileage may vary. The AJC article was light on story. The NPR dude did better but not much. The next meeting will tell if it matters. See you in Detroit I'll bring the donuts.

 

Considering the usual LEC meeting has about 30.... it's really not that much of a difference.

 

How many pilots would show up if the meeting was held in the bag area of the ATL crewroom? probably far more than 20. there are complaints not enough show up to the LEC meetings or MEC meetings and now DPA doesn't have enough. now imagine how many would show up if you logged into a gotomeetings.com arena? topic for another day.

i still think it's a sign of what's going on, 3,300+ pilots trying to vote out ALPA and try someone else with the hope it will be a union of the pilots by the pilots and for the pilots... that fly the line.

 

It is when you are trying to prove a point. How many pilots show up when you call for a picket line or strike support or a meeting about contract ratification. This meeting should have been SRO. It should have been visual proof that people are willing to decertify ALPA. It wasn't. That's fine. They announced it back in June so people could bid around it. They didn't. I agree it's like an ALPA meeting only the few faithful ones attend. Not enough in either case.

 

LEC meetings are not rallies or major organizing events, they are quarterly meetings to conduct routine pilot business. This on the other hand, was a highly touted DPA event designed to show case the association. 20 folks, really, in a base with nearly 4000 pilots and this was all the energy they could muster.

Was there at least some of the fireworks Carl predicted? You know jack booted ALPA thugs, bent on disruption. Or was just a quiet gathering filled with empty seats?

 

the Delta pilots war chest on the way to LM and Herndon if the DPA is voted in...

 

Deflect and ignore, typical of a DPA apologist who wants to sweep the racism in the DPA committee structure under the rug. Disgusting, but not unexpected from you.

 

^^^^ There is an African proverb that goes something like this. "The axe forgets, the tree remembers."

12,000 plus trees here remember. They gave. They are still giving, and they are for the most part tired of it.

When you have a select groups of committee folks and reps who "bank on FPL and make way more than the average pilot," or tree in this case, we have problems.

Is there any doubt as to why these folks tried to table and bury the FPL resolutions? Is there any doubt as to why they continue to obstruct the will of the members of the local councils that made these resolutions?

When one makes FPL at what, 90 + hours a month, plus stipends, with the ability to white and g/s as well, and all of it funded by Delta, have they felt the axe?

Are they willing to fight for restoration? For FDX or UPS+, or even SWA rates. Or, will they be content to not rock the boat, keep the system the same, and attempt to sell everyone on a modest raise because of.... fill in the blank with the excuse du jour.

If those folks are getting paid on what ever they can hold vs. what category they are actually in, I'd venture that they have their restoration already.