My post is serious, educated, and factual. An educated post does not require a thesis paper.

Just look at your retirement data... it speaks for itself. AirTran and WN are in the same boat with the 2 longest runs (by several years) of any airlines to retiring 50% of their list.

AirTran is only slightly behind WN- within a year and change to projected 50% retirement. Remember AirTran has a concentration of old Ex-eastern types...

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. This SLI will not be pure relative, and it most certainly will not be a W2 integration either. This is a merger of 2 737 operating LCC's (or are they a premium LCC since they have biz class? ) I DO think that the arbiter will give some sort of credit to the significant disparity between the contracts, thus weighting the integration slightly to the favor of the WN guys.

 

Neither airline has a Capt on property who comes anywhere near your number of years to upgrade.

I'm glad you explained yourself, because now I know why your post still doesn't make any sense.

 

I'm assuming you haven't looked at your retirement data, have you?

 

This is getting funnier and funnier.

 

1 seat,

You guys keep asking the same question, "what are the Air Tran pilot's losing by getting relative seniority?" And I guess you are getting mad because you aren't getting the response you want.


The Answer: Air Tran pilots lose nothing by getting relative seniority. That's the point. They will be in the same relative position that they were in before.

Now, how about answering the flip side (which I have been asking for days.) What do you lose in a relative seniority list with Air Tran.

I'm begging you or Bwi or anyone else to explain to me how 737 pay at the 30% spot on the current SWA list is different than 737 pay at the 30% spot on a ratio/relative list with Air Tran pilots...... (Please, don't say, "I've told you already.")


If you can't cite a different pay rate, you've got problems.

It's quite possible you guys shot yourself in the foot when you agreed to the same pay for the 737-800. (A higher pay-rate for the -800 would have led to a better argument.)



New K Now

 

The demographic info I have is significantly different than what's being touted here. I look at the birthdays I see on the Airtran list and they're significantly younger than what is on SWAPA list.

My number is that the Airtran list is approx 8 years younger on average than the SWA list. And it's more skewed on the FO side than the Capt side.

Therefore, at day 1 of integration I may be the same, but each year that passes my progression is slowed from what it would have been.

And yes, this is about the 4th time I've posted this.

I say again, what risk and loss is the Airtran pilot exposed to?

And if pay wasn't important and seniority was the only thing, we'd all still be at the regionals. Because honestly, no one really cares about the "size" of their equipment, only that bigger airplanes generally pay better.

 

I guess its all about you, then. Staple away!

 

There are laws and legal precedent in place. They were put in place because certain pilot groups concluded that buying another company meant "Give me everything you've got. We want it now".

I'm sure that isn't the case with SWA ........

 

The words here are so appropo

 

Yup this^^^